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re: Food Stamp abuse/misuse
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:35 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:35 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Many many people on food stamps work. The orientation at Walmart teaches employees how to apply for food stamps because the majority of their employees couldn't feed their families without them. Walmart is just passing the buck onto us to improve their bottom line. Y'all don't want anyone on food stamps but that sure as hell isn't going to keep you from buying your cheap crap at Walmart and Sam's.
Also a lot of people sell their food stamp cards for cash.
I'm not saying food stamp fraud isn't a thing. It's just not only a thing for the too lazy to work. But I totally agree that you shouldn't be able to buy junk food with them. But in poor neighborhoods without grocery stores what else can people buy? And the price of real food at the grocery stores in the hood is 2x what it cost elsewhere. It's a screwed up cycle of poverty and it's not designed to get anyone out of it.
Also a lot of people sell their food stamp cards for cash.
I'm not saying food stamp fraud isn't a thing. It's just not only a thing for the too lazy to work. But I totally agree that you shouldn't be able to buy junk food with them. But in poor neighborhoods without grocery stores what else can people buy? And the price of real food at the grocery stores in the hood is 2x what it cost elsewhere. It's a screwed up cycle of poverty and it's not designed to get anyone out of it.
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:37 pm to DrinkDrankDrunk
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DrinkDrankDrunk
Were you replying directly to me, or just in general?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:40 pm to Cold Cous Cous
Household income less than $75,000 doesn't mean you can't afford luxuries. It really says a lot about you as a person that you think this.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:47 pm to iAmBatman
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This would all go away if we had work centers where people could go to earn these cards. Want $100 of food dollars? Put in 12 hours of community work, signed off when completed, and you get your card. At that point, it could be WalMart gift card. I don't see the problem. Or the same could be done for career training, X hours completed, X dollars on a gift card.
This makes sense to me.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:59 pm to zacata88
You can't tell me the women who sell box lunches out of the back of there cars don't abuse the system. I mean 6 ribs with all the fixins for 7 bucks.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:04 pm to DawgCountry
quote:
There is tons of abuse and this is a great example
Hahahahhahahaha
Wut?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:13 pm to BamaHater
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:20 pm to cgrand
quote:
there's a picture of boiled crawfish on the gotdam LA EBT card brochure
There's also a picture of a guy in a fedora playing a trumpet, can you use an EBT card to buy one of those too?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:21 pm to Cold Cous Cous
quote:
There's also a picture of a guy in a fedora playing a trumpet, can you use an EBT card to buy one of those too?
the fedora, the trumpet or the guy?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:24 pm to cgrand
What every family should get per person per 2 weeks
Fruits
2 Banana's
2 Oranges
2 Apples
1/2 lb of grapes
Vegetables
1 can of Green Beans
1 can of Corn
1 bag of rice
1 bag of pinto beans
1 onion
1 bag of carrots
1 head of lettuce
Meats
1 lb of ground beef
1 lb of chicken breast
1 pkg of chicken breast sandwich meat.
Other things
1 box of cereal
1 dz eggs
1/2 gallon of milk
1 loaf of bread
Everything must be generic if available.
Cards have no cash value
Anybody who is caught selling stamps is banned for live from the program.
Fruits
2 Banana's
2 Oranges
2 Apples
1/2 lb of grapes
Vegetables
1 can of Green Beans
1 can of Corn
1 bag of rice
1 bag of pinto beans
1 onion
1 bag of carrots
1 head of lettuce
Meats
1 lb of ground beef
1 lb of chicken breast
1 pkg of chicken breast sandwich meat.
Other things
1 box of cereal
1 dz eggs
1/2 gallon of milk
1 loaf of bread
Everything must be generic if available.
Cards have no cash value
Anybody who is caught selling stamps is banned for live from the program.
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:27 pm to cgrand
quote:
trumpet or the guy?
Used to be you'd pay about 1000$ for one of these
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:30 pm to Croacka
quote:
food stamp program should be set up like the WIC program
qualifying families should get vouchers for a set list of products each week or month
they shouldnt get to choose what they purchase IMO
they should get raw chicken, ground beef, maybe a roast or two....rice, beans, milk, cheese, produce, etc.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:31 pm to BamaHater
I'm sure there is abuse, but the need for EBT is real.
I think the taxpayers forget that they're not so much paying for food as they are paying to live in a community where mothers, disabled, mentally ill, seniors and unemployed are not going through trash and stealing just to eat.
Think of the 3rd world. You want to deal with that?
I think the taxpayers forget that they're not so much paying for food as they are paying to live in a community where mothers, disabled, mentally ill, seniors and unemployed are not going through trash and stealing just to eat.
Think of the 3rd world. You want to deal with that?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:44 pm to Hater Bait
Government gruel. I've been preaching it for years.
The idea is that the government not allow our citizens to starve? Ok. Create a gruel with 100% of the requirements to sustain life. Make it tasteless. Sub-contract the mass production of it, which stimulates the economy like crazy.
If you meet the requirements, you receive the gruel. Eliminate EBT, or food stamps completely. Nobody starves. You don't like the gruel, buy your own food. But if you can't, guess what, you and your family don't starve. The choice is yours. Win/win.
The idea is that the government not allow our citizens to starve? Ok. Create a gruel with 100% of the requirements to sustain life. Make it tasteless. Sub-contract the mass production of it, which stimulates the economy like crazy.
If you meet the requirements, you receive the gruel. Eliminate EBT, or food stamps completely. Nobody starves. You don't like the gruel, buy your own food. But if you can't, guess what, you and your family don't starve. The choice is yours. Win/win.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:57 pm to Festus
Government gruel sounds like a good plan to me. In prisons that have a "nutrition loaf" made of soybeans and vegetables and flour that provides all nutrients but is supposed to taste awful. That sounds like a good idea also.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:00 pm to nvcowboyfan
In addition to a stimulus to the national economy and creation of jobs, it would be a nice little savings for each of us as a taxpayer as well, cutting the cost of EBT dramatically.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:02 pm to BamaHater
If they spend it on expensive shite, they get less shite.
I find threads like this interesting considering all the middle and upper middle and upper class people who get subsidies and whatever else they can when they can. How many restaurant owners who hardly sell seafood sued BP because of the spill?
It's pretty fricking common to take advantage of the gov't when you have a chance, but only the poor get ridiculed for it.
In all likelihood these people bought this crawfish for Mother's Day on their card and are going to have to live extra simple for the rest of the month. They just wanted to make their mother happy with whatever resources they had. This might be one of only 3-4 times a year they get to do something like this.
Or they are abusing the system. But you don't know, and assume anyone with food stamps shouldn't buy crawfish.
I find threads like this interesting considering all the middle and upper middle and upper class people who get subsidies and whatever else they can when they can. How many restaurant owners who hardly sell seafood sued BP because of the spill?
It's pretty fricking common to take advantage of the gov't when you have a chance, but only the poor get ridiculed for it.
In all likelihood these people bought this crawfish for Mother's Day on their card and are going to have to live extra simple for the rest of the month. They just wanted to make their mother happy with whatever resources they had. This might be one of only 3-4 times a year they get to do something like this.
Or they are abusing the system. But you don't know, and assume anyone with food stamps shouldn't buy crawfish.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:04 pm to TexasTiger1185
quote:
It's pretty fricking common to take advantage of the gov't when you have a chance
And there we have it folks, the crux of the problem.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:04 pm to Festus
Very sympathetic of your fellow humans.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:05 pm to TexasTiger1185
Thank you. It's why its' a valid solution. Win/win.
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