I worked ICU 31 years,anyone who has seen what I saw wouldn’t be spouting all this nonsense about flu shots.First of all,if ones gets the shot and shortly thereafter come down with the flu they were already infected and were at the end of the incubation period.Also the flu shot is not 100% effective but people who get the flu despite the shot typically have less severe case of shorter duration.
It’s risk vs. reward scenario,the odds of suffering harm from flu shot are infinitesimal compared to getting the flu.
The argument against the flu shot is ridiculous,like the smokers that want to tell about their grandpa that smoked 2 packs a day since he was 14 and got run over by a bus when they were 95.
I assure you,everyone in our family get the flu shot,especially the grandchildren.

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Posted by Bigfishchoupique

Member since Jul 2017

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Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:35 am to Jim Rockford

They is about as much chance of me getting a flu shot as there is of me taking up line dancing as a hobby.

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Posted by Korkstand

Member since Nov 2003

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Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:54 am to Landmass

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I have this weird idea that the flu shot is spreading the flu more than it is helping.

You're right, that is a weird idea.

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I think it also contributes to the viruses mutating into resistant strains.

Quite the opposite. Vaccines are not antibiotics, and viruses are not bacteria.

Antibiotics kill indiscriminately, and they even pass through the system and continue killing in the environment outside of the body. Bacteria also reproduce on their own, they are living things. Antibiotic use creates genetic bottlenecks which leads to rapid evolution toward antibiotic resistance. Antibiotics effectively create an environment where a wider variety of organisms have a larger and less competitive world in which to thrive, reproduce, and mutate.

Vaccines are extremely targeted, and they do not "kill" viruses (which are not technically alive to begin with). Rather, they simply invoke an immune response as if the virus had already infected the host. Viruses require a host to reproduce, so fewer viable hosts means fewer chances at mutation. Vaccines effectively create an environment where a smaller variety of viruses have a smaller world in which to thrive, reproduce, and mutate.

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Posted by GetCocky11

Calgary, AB

Member since Oct 2012

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Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:55 am to Landmass

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I have this weird idea

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I think

Another example of our new "feelings, not facts" society we live in now.

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Posted by ksayetiger

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Member since Jul 2007

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Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:03 pm to Korkstand

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Quite the opposite. Vaccines are not antibiotics, and viruses are not bacteria.

Antibiotics kill indiscriminately, and they even pass through the system and continue killing in the environment outside of the body. Bacteria also reproduce on their own, they are living things. Antibiotic use creates genetic bottlenecks which leads to rapid evolution toward antibiotic resistance. Antibiotics effectively create an environment where a wider variety of organisms have a larger and less competitive world in which to thrive, reproduce, and mutate.

Vaccines are extremely targeted, and they do not "kill" viruses (which are not technically alive to begin with). Rather, they simply invoke an immune response as if the virus had already infected the host. Viruses require a host to reproduce, so fewer viable hosts means fewer chances at mutation. Vaccines effectively create an environment where a smaller variety of viruses have a smaller world in which to thrive, reproduce, and mutate.

It is nice to see an intelligent post every now and then on the ot.

The amount of dumbasses in this thread, and the world, is amazing

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