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re: Fixing Sleep Apnea with apap/cpap technology.

Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:56 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31765 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:56 am to
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In all seriousness, I understand what your saying. Sometimes it's a hard reality when things start working against you that causes a drop off in health.. I am in the process of getting my gym time in again and its working. I lost way at some point. Not all of us stay on task all the time like we want to because of many factors. I'll say this , before anyone points the finger in this thread which wasn't my intention in making this thread, they need to go through severe sleep apnea and the ground zero fatigue ot brings and then come back to me and tell me how much your doing to change it without real help . I got help and I'm doing a ton better. Just like diet and exercise is a good thing. Getting a doctor's help is also equally as good. Peace bro.




see we can have a conversation when its post like this. no reason to get upset if people are just pointing out things. I didnt come in here to be a dick, although my last post obviously was but it was in response.

i get the sleep apnea thing and glad you got it fixed. now dont be in denial and get the rest of your health fixed. look at it as a second chance.
Posted by SeaPro
Louisiana Coast
Member since Oct 2021
164 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:14 am to
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plenty of old people still eating nails and shitting tacks and kicking arse in the weight room and life. Dont make excuses for yourself.


not everybody is perfect brother, this thread was really about doctors prescribing apap/cpap to help apnea, not reducing the effects of sleep apnea thru exercise and good eating habits. This is about getting tips on the machine and their masks.
Posted by captainpodnuh
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
482 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:22 am to
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lol, because even at 220, you are 30+ lbs overweight. lol, because even at 220, you are 30+ lbs overweight.

6'1 250....jesus christ that is fat as frick. I know cause at one time i had gotten to 245 @ 5'10.

im glad you are getting your sleep issues fixed, now get your weight issues fixed.


some of you guys need to realize though...that most of these issues are caused from being extremely overweight and obese. i mean 6'1 250 is teetering on morbidly obese.

6'1 250....jesus christ that is fat as frick. I know cause at one time i had gotten to 245 @ 5'10.

im glad you are getting your sleep issues fixed, now get your weight issues fixed.


some of you guys need to realize though...that most of these issues are caused from being extremely overweight and obese. i mean 6'1 250 is teetering on morbidly obese.


No offense to your broad brush strokes, but at 6'1" and 210, I look emaciated. I'm a big guy. I wear a 50" jacket. I don't skip leg day. Yes, I'm overweight at 250. Yes, I've been at 210. I function/feel/look my best at 220. The apnea persists due to anatomical issues and having a large neck, no matter what my weight is. You can't apply the BMI chart to everyone due to differences in body type. If I was 190 pounds I would fly away in a light thunderstorm and look like an AIDS patient back in the 80s.

But if it helps you sleep at night without apnea, I'm back on my program and working towards 220.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29341 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:28 am to
I switched to the Resmed F30I mask and it was a game changer for me. I hated wearing the full face mask because it was always in my line of sight and it was just not comfortable for me.

The f30i is like a mask over your mouth but like a pillow for your nose so it seals your nose and doesn't allow leaks but for me it is 100% more comfortable. I can sleep on my back, side, or stomach with it with minimal air leaks. With the full face mask I was usually between 5-10 events/hr....with this mask I'm below 1 every night.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19275 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:34 am to
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is your mask super tight? My machine has a mask tester function. I have to put my mask so tight for it to pass the test. It's uncomfortable


No, not at all. I will have to tighten it more as the mask degrades after time. I even sleep on my belly/side and the mask doesn't move. On rare occasions it will break seal but then I just adjust and back to sleep.
Posted by SeaPro
Louisiana Coast
Member since Oct 2021
164 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:40 am to
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switched to the Resmed F30I mask
I'm glad this mask got you straight, I looked up this mask and it's the same one I have or same design(DreamWear Full Face Mask - Philips Respironics). I'm getting use to it but having my nose covered where my nostrils are is making the experience feel weird to get relaxed. I have to really focus. I have tbh averaging around 14/15ahi a night and I have the darn thing smashed against my face, any tighter it won't be even close to being comfortable. Maybe how I sleep is pushing mask to leak? Even at 14/15 ahi, I feel a ton better from 72ahi...trying to get it to 5ahi or under. Today I get my mouth only oracle mouth mask. Doesn't even touch my nose at all. I literally only breath out my mouth so I'll know tomorrow morning if my ahi drops from a 14 to lower with new mouth only mask.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 9:51 am
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19275 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:53 am to
if I try that F30I do I also have to change the straps or does the mask just interchange with the full facemask
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31765 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:30 am to
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No offense to your broad brush strokes, but at 6'1" and 210, I look emaciated. I'm a big guy. I wear a 50" jacket. I don't skip leg day. Yes, I'm overweight at 250. Yes, I've been at 210. I function/feel/look my best at 220. The apnea persists due to anatomical issues and having a large neck, no matter what my weight is. You can't apply the BMI chart to everyone due to differences in body type. If I was 190 pounds I would fly away in a light thunderstorm and look like an AIDS patient back in the 80s.




there it is, the "Im just a big boy" and "i would look like an aids paitent at 190"


bullshite, no you wouldnt, you are just used to being fat. stop being a dumbass.

tons of MMA fighters, tennis players, soccer players all look perfectly healthy and what most people consider ripped at 6'1 190.

if you look emancipated at 210 its becuase you have no muscle. how about you start lifting weights because yes at 210 you are still very fat.
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18426 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:33 am to
My c-pap is under the phillips recall. I slept better with it, but i have stopped using it.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29341 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:21 am to
Man I hope that works for you....I just watched a video on it and I don't think I could sleep very well with something in my mouth....not to mention the nasal plugs or whatever they are.

I hope it gets you straight though
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29341 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:23 am to
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if I try that F30I do I also have to change the straps or does the mask just interchange with the full facemask


That's a negatory....it's a whole new system. The tube connects on top of your head instead of in the front. The straps are also a little different.

It's not as easy as just buying the f30i cushion to start....you have to get the whole new mask to start using it.
Posted by SeaPro
Louisiana Coast
Member since Oct 2021
164 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:47 am to
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Man I hope that works for you....I just watched a video on it and I don't think I could sleep very well with something in my mouth....not to mention the nasal plugs or whatever they are.
ill be good I think with the mouth only but I know what your saying. I am close on the mask I'm using now, I just like ill click easier with something that doesn't shoot air up my nose. We will see.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:32 pm to
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What are your experiences/struggles with sleep apnea, what has worked for you and your road to recovery. Any tips ?


CPAP machine and after much trial and error, I settled on the AirTouch F20 mask. It has a memory foam cushion around the edge which prevents both leakage and discomfort from long-term use. It was a game-changer for me. I've only missed one or two nights of wearing it in the last two years.

Ignore the price - your insurance should cover and replacement parts are available on Amazon for cheap.

Also, do not invest in the cleaning machines you see advertised. Most use ozone, which can build up in the lines and isn't good for you. Use ONLY distilled water in your machine and it will stay clean.

Good luck!
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted by captainpodnuh
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
482 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:48 pm to
You are quite amusing. I'm enjoying this friendly banter.

Fighters who train regularly also dehydrate just prior to weigh-in to make weight. They weigh 10lbs more on average.

Here's a LINK to Gi sizes for fighters.

5'11"-6'2" 190-215lbs

I don't need to be in fighter shape to not be a lardass. I just need to be healthy, and active enough to enjoy a rich meal and beer when i feel like it.
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
1968 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 6:08 am to
I have an APAP. You need to get the respiratory therapist to set the parameters. Mine was set too low at the minimum level. We doubled that and I have fared much better.

FYI, my doctor sold be a APAP in his inventory. I noticed it did not come with a mask so I went to a medical supply store to get one. While there I found out that the unit had to be calibrated to the user including fit test and I needed a prescription to do all this. Just in case this is your situation.
Posted by SeaPro
Louisiana Coast
Member since Oct 2021
164 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 8:12 am to
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a chronic mouth breather



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broader mask surface are


I am a mouth breather also. I tried using a mouth only(oracle is to uncomfortable using a mask that requires part of it to be in your mouth) a no go so I went back to the dreamwear full mask which I was getting used to tbw. I have not been able to get it lower than a 14 yet. Not sure where to turn yet, all I can do is report it and keep trying. 14 ahi is better than 72 ahi for sure though.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 8:13 am
Posted by SeaPro
Louisiana Coast
Member since Oct 2021
164 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 8:14 am to
I went through the right channels to get my script. Took sleep test, got prescribed and my apap was already set for me. The calibrating happens automatically where as a cpap is one set number based on the findings during your sleep test.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11477 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 8:57 am to
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i was a 175-185lbs and lower when I started going thru apnea problems, other reason caused my weight gain. Not concerned at all, cause I've dropped 7lbs already and been back into the gym with the new energy. Your a true legend man, you got it! May I ask your age?
He's just a judgemental dickhead. He already knows everything and how to fix it.

BTW, a big part of my market, in treating sleep disorders, is active duty military. I guess they are all obese, right?

While weight gain can contribute to sleep apnea, so can age and structure of the neck/throat.
Posted by SeaPro
Louisiana Coast
Member since Oct 2021
164 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:05 am to
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BTW, a big part of my market, in treating sleep disorders, is active duty military. I guess they are all obese, right?

While weight gain can contribute to sleep apnea, so can age and structure of the neck/throat.
yes sir I agree and already knew this. Some people don't have tact and say things in neutral way like u did above.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31765 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:20 am to
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He's just a judgemental dickhead. He already knows everything and how to fix it.


yea so judgemental and a dickhead for pointing out fat people are fat. what are you 5? jesus christ grow a pair and admit 90% of those with sleep apnea are at a minimum overweight.

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BTW, a big part of my market, in treating sleep disorders, is active duty military. I guess they are all obese, right?


well as someone that was in the military I can tell you....yea a lot of them are lol.

But tad different stress level for active duty military vs normal person and wtf is the actual market share of active duty vs everyday joe.

Considering the fact that something like 90% of those with sleep apnea are overweight and over 50% are obese....i would say the market share of those in good shape that have sleep apnea is actually very small.

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While weight gain can contribute to sleep apnea, so can age and structure of the neck/throat.


absolutely. but the biggest thing is weight, period.


my advice, have some self perception. I can readily admit right now i consider myself overweight both in terms of BMI and BF%. Im not always like that, but i have been what i consider morbidly obese before when i got above 240. Its ok to admit that and actually healthy to do so. Just because everyone else is fatter than you, doesnt mean you arent fat.
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