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re: Fixed my 1980s Maytag Dryer...damn thats a fine piece of machinery!

Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40383 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:33 pm to
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new Speed Queen W&D



that was my first choice but after comparing the price ($100 for the set)


Ours are on back order. Expected to be here by end of the month. I decided on these based upon Napoleon's endorsement and several service technicians opinion where I purchased them from.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94723 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:36 pm to
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the 80 series Kenmore and the Whirlpool it is based off of are the GOAT.


oh really? did those come along after these?

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A belt is like $5 and should be changed anytime the cabinet is open


i almost did this but the one on it seemed in great shape.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74900 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:38 pm to
I sell old units as a side gig. I may sell 1-2 a week. I have a really hard time selling anything made before 2002.
Sadly laundry tech peaked at that time. Post energy star timers and controls suck arse.
I can make a 1990's Kenmore or Maytag set last forever with a really good shot of preventive maintenance.
The ones from the 80's are even better. It's just people want to buy based off of looks.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40383 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:40 pm to
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It's just people want to buy based off of looks.


We fell into that category with our previous set, LG.

Sales person told me the only reason they carry LG & Samsung is because that's what most people want ... they buy on looks. So they sell what they sell.

Sales person said Speed Queen is the best, followed by Maytag and Whirlpool (said there were no difference essentially between the two except looks).
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:40 pm to
I have a ~10 year old Roper set and I want to keep them operating as long as possible

I've changed a heating element and lid switch so far.


I don't care for the lint trap on the top of the dryer. Makes a mess to clean it out
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82755 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:41 pm to
My dryer has an electronic timer, dryness sensor, and will play you a nice melody when it is done.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94723 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:42 pm to
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I can make a 1990's Kenmore or Maytag set last forever with a really good shot of preventive maintenance.
The ones from the 80's are even better. It's just people want to buy based off of looks.


after dealing with a samsung front loader POS i kept asking myself why i didnt keep my old kenmore. i treated that washer like shite and drug it to multiple houses and i just couldn't break it. i dont think i ever had a service call.

these feel like 'home'. like i could fix anything that goes wrong for a few dollars.

all i want is clean-smelling dry clothes and all samsung gave me was $300 motherboard replacements and mildewed clothes.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94723 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:43 pm to
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dryness sensor,

so does my 1985 maytag and it works like a damn charm
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74900 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:44 pm to
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oh really? did those come along after these?


No, they are from a 1973 design. When Whirlpool and Sears began development and started the Whirlpool takeover of the lady Kenmore line.

I prefer Whirlpool made Kenmores to pre-Whirlpool Maytags (new Maytags are rebranded Whirlpools like Kenmore is) because the washers are direct drive and not belt drive. The units are easier to work on and the cabinet design is better. Also Whirlpool used a serviceble transmission and an easy to change clutch.

Dryers are a push.
The only brand I tend to tell people to avoid is GE. Their controls from 1996-2012 where held in place by a plastic tab. You overturn that "turn to start switch" and instead of a $35 switch you need to buy a $160 panel because of how cheaply made the panel was.

GE also uses mylar glides to support the drum instead of roller bearings. Maytags and Whirlpools are very similar even on that vintage. I think even many of the motors are interchangeable.

I think one reason I prefer Whirlpool is the high quality of FSP parts and the longevity of their designs.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94723 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:49 pm to
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Napoleon


you know your shite.

i like how you need to remove 2 screws and about 12 machine screws and you can get to virtually everything in the dryer.

nobody wants to take the time anymore to learn how to maintain stuff themselves.

eta the hardest part of the process was trying to stretch the heating coil to make it through all the sockets without over-stretching any one section.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74900 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:49 pm to
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I don't care for the lint trap on the top of the dryer. Makes a mess to clean it out


Hold over from the 70 series Kenmore line it is based on. Ropers are great, they use old simple technology and are billed as the brand for rentals.
They are cheap to keep going.
Yes that lint trap is a pain, BUT it is also more efficient that most front lint traps and the rear fan has a solid seal at the exhaust, while front vents are squeezed in by the panel holding the front door.

One tip, if you ever burn the white fusable link in a dryer, it is not because the dryer has issues, it's because the air coming out is restricted and you need to clean your exhaust.

Dryer exhaust is a leading cause of house fires, and so few people have their lint exhaust or dryers cleaned.
I rarely bring it up anymore as people think I'm just trying to make an extra buck, when it really is because of how important it is to keep that area clear.

I also mention this, because that 'link' is a $10 part and many less than reputable techs would rather charge for the element and fuse kit (like $90) as they make a much greater return on investment.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74900 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:52 pm to
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so does my 1985 maytag and it works like a damn charm


The old dryness sensors are the same as the new ones.

Two metal tabs, one to ground one to a control that knows that if it senses a ground that the clothes are still wet and that is it does not sense a ground the clothes are dry.
You test these by touching them with a wet finger and verifying ground at the input on the control.
Dryness sensors are the same today as they were back then. Those two silver strips.



Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74900 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:55 pm to
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nobody wants to take the time anymore to learn how to maintain stuff themselves.


Which is a good thing, keeps this field lucrative
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94723 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:58 pm to
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Napoleon


i love the 3-part turquoise agitator in the washer with the lint catcher. i cleaned it with some soapy water and a brush and it looks like it came out of the box yesterday.

i also love the zine-coated tub..it feels and looks brand new even after 30 years...no scuffs and no rust.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 2:02 pm
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82755 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:00 pm to
My dryer can steam my clothes
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94723 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74900 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:05 pm to
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My dryer can steam my clothes



My next dryer will have this. It's the ONE feature that new dryers have that I really like. ...and no it isn't the same as just throwing a wet rage in with your clothes.

This gets them nice and fully steamed. Like coming from a cleaners.

I had one and I sold it before I used it that much (because it was red). So weird hooking up a Y valve and running water to the dryer as well.

Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58836 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:06 pm to
Mother fricking cool story.
Posted by JoePepitone
Waffle House #1494
Member since Feb 2014
12210 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:12 pm to
I think my Maytag washer and dryer were bought in 1988. The last time I needed service on the dryer the serviceman told me to keep using them as long as replacement parts are available. He said the new appliances do not measure up very well in comparison to my old Maytags.
Posted by Tactical Insertion
Member since Feb 2011
3205 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:08 pm to
Just bought a new Maytag dishwasher yesterday. All stainless steel
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