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re: Five years of progress for SpaceX

Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:06 pm to
I don't understand? Is the Starhopper in 2019 part if the Starship program overall? Because Falcon 9 had its first successful orbital delivery and return landing like a decade ago.

So is the five years just this Starship program?
Posted by Psych23
Member since Aug 2024
731 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:06 pm to
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don't understand? Is the Starhopper in 2019 part if the Starship program overall? Because Falcon 9 had its first successful orbital delivery and return landing like a decade ago.

So is the five years just this Starship program?


They were testing a new engine.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
4953 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:27 pm to
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they could give NASA 10 trillion dollars and they would not be able to accomplish what SpaceX did in the same timeframe.


Don't give THIS government any ideas
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21693 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:30 pm to
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They were testing a new engine.

Ahh. Got it.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23228 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 6:26 pm to
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They were testing a new engine.


Yup. Falcon uses merlin engine, which used RP-1 and Oxygen in an open cycle. Open cycle is the most common for today's engines. The landing is done as a suicide burn, there is no throttling of power.

Starhopper was first go of the Raptor engine. It uses methane and oxygen, and the first full flow cycle to fly. Raptor engines allow more control and can be throttled better. V3 raptors are among the most powerful and efficient rocket engines, and they have not even used those yet.



Full vs. Closed vs. Open cycles of rocket engines is a good read or watch. Go to Everyday Astronaut and enjoy

Everyday Astronaut Rocket Deep Dives
This post was edited on 10/15/24 at 6:27 pm
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
6040 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 6:35 pm to
Currently working on a project for NASA and it is a shitshow of epic proportions
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8397 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 6:52 pm to
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Nasa should take note.
I know we like to dunk on NASA, but the Shuttle could do anything and more that Starship can do.



Yes, yes, expensive, maybe poorly managed ; but damn she was sexy fly through the air. She just looked bad arse.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15164 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 7:00 pm to
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but the Shuttle could do anything and more that Starship can do.


Killed more people than Starship.

Going to be fun watching Elon’s robots build a city on Mars.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7343 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 7:49 pm to
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learned FAA, NASA and DoD can all issue launch licenses.


I did not know this.
Posted by btrcj
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2019
681 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:04 pm to
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quote:
don't understand? Is the Starhopper in 2019 part if the Starship program overall? Because Falcon 9 had its first successful orbital delivery and return landing like a decade ago.

So is the five years just this Starship program?


They were testing a new engine.


Yep. the hopper was the test bed for the Raptor engines that are used on Starship and Super Heavy Booster.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32755 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:05 pm to
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Crazy how all that burning Jet Fuel did not make the structure collapse?


Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19051 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:13 pm to
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I know we like to dunk on NASA, but the Shuttle could do anything and more that Starship can do.


The Shuttle was a pickup truck for low earth orbit (LEO). I think Starship is a heavy launch vehicle to go beyond LEO.

SpaceX has made some very good engineering decisions to drive the cost down. They also take a novel systems engineering approach that enables them to navigate into and out of design changes more rapidly than NASA.

Nothing but props to the SpaceX team.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66522 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:31 pm to
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Nasa should take note.



NASA should just quit. Just fire all their asses. Give the Artemis project to Elon, give him all the funding, give him the controls to all things associated to space and space travel.

If he wants to hire some of those stale fricks, let him decide.


Let someone in there that will get the most out of the investment.

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
30292 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:37 pm to
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Going to be fun watching Elon’s robots build a city on Mars.


I like science fiction movies too.
Posted by LATIGERFAN
Member since Sep 2009
1442 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:39 pm to
Elon must have a very diverse work force to have achieved so much in such a relatively short time. I bet his staff is at least 10% lgbtq. Other companies should take note.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23228 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:45 pm to
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Shuttle could do anything and more that Starship can do.


I agree Space Shuttle was sexy as hell, but will not even be close to Starship.



Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8902 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:52 pm to
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It’s amazing how many people would rather heckle and laugh at someone for setting big goals and then be so nasty and dismissive of them once accomplished


Yes!!!!
Some basement dwelling baristas with a edgy handle on instagram- somehow think they are qualified as “influencers”
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
10498 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 10:17 pm to
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Nasa should take note.


NASA should be dismantled and let the private sector do it since we have seen how much better it is. NASA at best should have some say so and a seat at the table but not wasting my money any longer.
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