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re: First Time Buying a House

Posted on 1/20/16 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 2:56 pm to
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PMI goes away at 20% equity for my FHA loan. I didn't do anything special

I honestly didn't know that was possible. And 3.1% was your rate? Sounds like you got a great loan.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 2:57 pm to
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I am in an industry that isnt affected by the economy.


What industry, if you don't mind me asking.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111125 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 2:58 pm to
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What industry, if you don't mind me asking.

I am a CPA. Public accounting will keep on trucking through Armageddon son
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41903 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 2:58 pm to
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So if you sold the house for $200k after 3 years, Option A would net you $15,827 and Option B would net $48,105 - $32,278 more than Option A (even though you paid $34k more upfront for Option A), but you can't stop there. In those 36 months of payments you would have paid $12,200 more with Option B, so in the end, putting $20k down up front saves you more than $10k if you sell the house in 3 years.


id be alot happier in those 3 years with an extra $34,000 in liquid money that I can do what I please. And why are you selling the house after 3 years?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86038 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 2:58 pm to
PMI isn't the devil if you

1) plan on staying in the house long term

or

2) plan on doing renovations

Posted by MapGuy
I was born,I grew older,I'm here
Member since May 2010
37458 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 2:58 pm to
the folks that bought my house last year did a rural development loan which allowed them to borrow 100% of the full asking price.

he could have put 10% down but decided to use his cash for other things.

i'm not sure i would have done it different. not that much of a difference in the note and he can pay down on it if he wants.

pmi is the only negative.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 2:59 pm to
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I honestly didn't know that was possible. And 3.1% was your rate? Sounds like you got a great loan.
I guess so Went through NOLA Lending FWIW
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
18033 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:01 pm to

As already stated, there are different programs with different down payment options and loan options. The best thing to do is speak to a professional. It's free and they will give you all the advice you need.

We used Nation's Lending in Lafayette and they were great to deal with. Like I said, call up any mortgage company and they can answer any questions you have.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41903 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:01 pm to
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Went through NOLA Lending FWIW


might be making a phone call soon. last time i did a home loan checkup they said i could get rid of PMI after 5 years of owning the house.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91836 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:03 pm to
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think you missed the funky math of having to wait the 3 extra years to save up with option A


You didn't specify any of that in your post - you just said putting down 3% or 20% makes no difference with some extremely rough numbers.

Plus, this fantasy land where PMI is only paid until LTV is 78% fails to realize how many people go with FHA loans. Sure you can refinance down the road to remove PMI, but whose to say that interest rates will be as favorable then.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:03 pm to
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uy a house you can afford is the best advice you can get. Any plan that requires your house to significantly increase in value and/or for you to refinance in the future in order for it to work could have a disastrous result.



Just because I don't have 20% at the moment doesn't mean I can't afford the mortgage I'm intending to have.

I'm not stupid.

Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98924 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:06 pm to
upside of public accounting is that if you lose your job you're not missing out on much cause it doesn't pay worth a shite
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:06 pm to
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Yep. I mean look at this house, in Metairie. You would guess it is going for like 150-175 right? Nope. 252,000 for this 1600 sq ft beauty


I ran into that problem when I moved back to BR from a mid sized town in East Texas.

We had a starter house about that size with some nicer features for less than $130k.

Comparable in BR was $200k, and not even in the best neighborhoods.

It was quite an eye opener.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111125 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:08 pm to
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upside of public accounting is that if you lose your job you're not missing out on much cause it doesn't pay worth a shite
Im not in public anymore. But I know at any point in time I could walk into a Public firm and get hired on the spot


And that isnt a brag about me personally, anyone who is a CPA knows that is the truth
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91836 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:09 pm to
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PMI goes away at 20% equity for my FHA loan. I didn't do anything special I honestly didn't know that was possible


It isn't. You can refinance after you've built up that much equity but PMI is for the LIFE of the FHA loan you originated.

Basically, if you went with FHA, you'll pay MIP (FHA's version of PMI) for the term of the loan if you're original LTV was 90% or more, or for 11 years if your original LTV was less than 90%.

People are misled all the time on FHA loans saying that PMI will go away after you build up the equity to 20%, but no one ever tells them that the only way that happens is with a refinance and that will only save you money if rates are fairly close to where they are now.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98924 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:09 pm to
yeah so could I with a 50% pay cut
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
7107 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:09 pm to
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Just because I don't have 20% at the moment doesn't mean I can't afford the mortgage I'm intending to have


This.

My wife and I just bought a house near Raleigh, NC. We used a VA loan, so 0 down and my rate is 3.75%. We take home, together, $86,000 a year and that is only because we just moved and she hasn't found a job yet. My mortgage is $1275 a month. If we were renting we would be paying probably more than that.

We save $1500 a month, we have no issues and we live very comfortably.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:11 pm to
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20% Down, 6 month emergency fund, max 401k to employer match, max ira....until you can do this don't buy a house.


this might be the worst advice i've ever seen..
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111125 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:11 pm to
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yeah so could I with a 50% pay cut
Manager level makes about 75-100k in Public. You pulling in close to two bills homie?

If yes are you hiring? I bring a great work ethic and sparkling personality
Posted by MapGuy
I was born,I grew older,I'm here
Member since May 2010
37458 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:11 pm to
realestate prices in louisiana are insane.

the lafayette area is over priced by $20 a sq ft on average.

with that said.. the amount of insurance sub contractors have to carry here is ridiculous. sub trades in other states are way lower than here on with insurance just being one line item.
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