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re: Final Report On Las Vegas Shooter; Motive Remains Unknown

Posted on 8/3/18 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by Paul B Ammer
The Mecca of Tuscaloosa
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 7:57 pm to
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You'd be surprised at shite that goes on that the government covers up


There are still things from WWI that the British government covers up.

British agents planned to blow up an ammunition dump on Staten Island and make it look like the Germans were responsible. It would have killed hundreds of Americans.

By the time the US uncovered the plots, the US had declared war on Germany.
This post was edited on 8/3/18 at 8:05 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:00 pm to
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This guy was introverted in his life before this. Maybe there just isn't anything more to it.


The guy's life was a open book, he was a introvert, loner, probably suffered from depression, made a decent chunk of money in real estate, blew it gambling. With most of the money gone, and no way to recover financially he entered a deeper state of mental illness and decided to end it all in a away he would forever be remembered.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:02 pm to
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As much as I would like to attach some type of conspiracy to this story, I can still find it very plausible that one person could do exactly what he did.
He wanted to commit suicide, but decided to just wipe out a bunch of people with him on the way.
You could put it into the same category as those pilots who have committed suicide by crashing their own jet.



I should have been more clear in my OP. I am with you in this, I think it was as simple as him wanting to commit suicide, but wanted to go out with a bang first.

The brain is powerful and over time, someone's brain can alter the way that person functions. Or someone can be born without empathy or the brain doesn't produce hormones that create certain feelings, and people just adapt to a "normal" life until that one day they decide to do something like... Shoot up a crowd at a concert from a hotel.

It's just difficult to understand having the mindset to do something like that..
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:04 pm to
Is that what your investigation has shown?

You sound like you just want it to go away.

Do you think that there really is no trail anywhere leading up to what he did?

He just randomly took an arsenal to a hotel room and shot up a concert.

Are you that dumb?



This post was edited on 8/3/18 at 8:28 pm
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:05 pm to
His motivation was he a nut case.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:07 pm to
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I wish there was away to determine what was going through his head

I think it was a slug from a .357 magnum
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:08 pm to
He was a nut bag?

Ok.

Tell me another mass shooter besides this guy with no clearly identified motive?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:08 pm to
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Yeah, and Lee Harvy Oswald acted alone, too, and Jack Ruby just wanted to save Jaqueline Kennedy the pain of a trial.


Jack Ruby being in place to kill Oswald was total random luck regardless of his motive. Oswald was supposed to be moved earlier that day, and Ruby made stops along the way to the courthouse, had they taken just few minutes longer Oswald would have already been gone when he got to the courthouse. Not exactly the actions you would expect from someone that had a premeditated plan to kill Oswald.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:12 pm to
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Tell me another mass shooter besides this guy with no clearly identified motive?

Charles Whitman. The ORIGINAL "shot lots of people from a high spot for no fricking reason other than maybe a brain tumor" dude.

I'm pretty sure Howard Unruh just kinda walked around capping people and never really had a motive other than "fricking nuts".

Mass murderers don't always have very well definable motives, whether they formulate a plan to climb a tower in Austin with a bunch of rifles and ammo and pick people off or just snap and start walking down the street with a single handgun whacking people.
This post was edited on 8/3/18 at 8:27 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:12 pm to
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Do,you think that there really is no trail anywhere leading up to what he did?

He just randomly took an arsenal to a hotel room and shot up a concert.


There is a trail, he blew the money he spent his entire life earning, and at his age believed there was no way to every regain his wealth which probably put in into a deeper depression.




Yes, in his dark mental state he decided suicide was the only way out, and decided to do it in a way that would put him in the history books.
This post was edited on 8/3/18 at 8:15 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71189 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:13 pm to
You know, unless he was tailing him.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106059 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:14 pm to
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This was obviously planned, but what makes someone want to do something like this? To want to shoot at a huge crowd of people and to try and kill as many people as possible? 



What makes someone nurse a grudge for 20 years before settling it with a drive by bicycle shooting? People be cray cray.
Posted by Scoop
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44583 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:19 pm to
Paddock is the only mass shooter in our history for which no definitive motive is evident.

He also executed his mass shooting with amazing planning over at least a couple of weeks.

The handling of this investigation being the largest mass shooting in American history was hair raising regarding the lack of information which continues to this day.

It is the shadiest thing I’ve seen in my 46 years.

For you to dismiss it as him being a nutbag is just retarded.



Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:22 pm to
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Paddock is the only mass shooter in our history for which no definitive motive is evident.

Well, you know, except for the two I named fairly easily in response to the first time you made this stupid assertion.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:27 pm to
Whitman had a brain tumor.He left a damn trail before he went to the tower in killing his wife and mom and left multiple letters saying what he was gonna do and asking for an autopsy because he knew something was wrong with him.

Apparently ol’ Paddock left no bread crumbs anywhere in the universe.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:31 pm to
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The handling of this investigation being the largest mass shooting in American history was hair raising regarding the lack of information which continues to this day.


He was going broke, he was mad at the world/casinos, they said he probably had a mild mental disorder, don't understand what more information you think there should be, do you think the aliens kept at area 51 told him to do it?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:45 pm to
He is a nutcase.

He is a loser.

He does not interest me. The investigation was a huge waste of time and money. The end. Moving on.
Posted by Scoop
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Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:45 pm to

Ok.

Vegas PD closing it with no motive. You must know better.
This post was edited on 8/3/18 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Scoop
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Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:48 pm to
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He does not interest me. The investigation was a huge waste of time and money. The end. Moving on.


Yeah, no.

I see a guy like you wanting to move on and it tells me all I need to know.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:51 pm to
Lol. You're an idiot.

And wierdo.

And poliboard poster.

All sorta the same I guess.
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