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re: Fentanyl in the US: A visual guide

Posted on 2/9/25 at 8:16 am to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16989 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 8:16 am to
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The precursors used to make it are very profitable and the Chinese producers don’t really give a shite what it’s being used for. As the great wu tang once said, cash rules everything around me

It’s both.

The Chinese will tell anyone who will listen they are at war with us.

They’re just doing to us what the British did to them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282476 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 8:16 am to
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They need to bring heroin back it was better anyways.


Drub prohibition is more dangerous than freedom.

It creates a violent market, with more dangerous alternatives.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2366 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 8:23 am to
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something a reputable dealer would want to do

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reputable dealer

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reputable (drug) dealer

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reputable


Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 8:43 am to
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22,000 pounds of fentanyl



The amount of fentanyl it takes to kill the average person who has never taken an opiate before is estimated to be around 2mg.


Each pound has 453,592mg or so in it. Or about enough to kill 226,796 who have never seen it before.

The goal is generally just to ‘spike’ other cocktails and make people trip harder, but when Canada only let 10 pounds in, it carries the potential to kill 2MM people.



22,000 is a lot.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
2289 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 8:44 am to
I know everyone thinks the “war on drugs” has been a failure but that’s only because we haven’t actually treating it as a war. Send in the drones and ninjas to lay waste to these low life fricks.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282476 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 8:45 am to
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I know everyone thinks the “war on drugs” has been a failure but that’s only because we haven’t actually treating it as a war


You cant. American demand drives the market.

You could crush every supplier and rid every drug overnight, and new drugs and distribution models would open tomorrow.

Its unwinnable because we are fighting human nature.
Posted by hometownhero89
Center of the Earth
Member since Aug 2007
1803 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 8:55 am to
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Same for my brother

Unfortunately everyone is to blame. The dealer, the user, the justice system. Perhaps even my parents.

Current sentencing guidelines are not working. At all.


Thank you, brother. I don't disagree with a single thing here.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39843 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:04 am to
Looking at some 2022 data and I was surprised that Delaware had the second highest fentanyl death rate. One spot behind West Virginia.

This post was edited on 2/9/25 at 9:07 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282476 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:06 am to
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Looking at spome 2022 data and I was surprised that Delaware had the second highest fentanyl death rate. One spot behind West Virginia.



Its really exploded here too. I guess I just dont "get it." I was given some in hospital once and hated it.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10000 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:07 am to
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but when Canada only let 10 pounds in, it carries the potential to kill 2MM people.


Only got.caught* letting that.much in.

Northern border has 1 agent per 3.5 miles.

Southern border has 15 agents per 1 mile.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:16 am to
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Only got.caught* letting that.much in.



Very much agree with your point; I intended to quote ‘only’ but did not to emphasize that:
1) the numbers literally can’t be accurate as it’s not something that’s accounted for
2) even the ‘accounted for’ amount is about enough to kill half of Louisiana in a day, and it shouldn’t be written off as some sort of nonproblem
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
12809 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:31 am to
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It does seem to be something a reputable dealer would want to do.

None of this would be a problem if users just turned to alcohol instead of drugs.
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
Member since Sep 2024
1083 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:34 am to


Imagine being a shitlib and this is what you have to resort to on a Sunday morning to "own" the Bad Orange Man.

Face it, America rejected you and your child tranny loving commie retard arse.

Go back to Reddit and plan some more assassinations and jerk off to some more boi pussy.

Freaking losers.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16003 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:35 am to
Is fentanyl something the cartels can make or is it being made a pharma chemical production facility? Seems like if it was being made by pharma, a la oxy, that wouldn't be difficult to shut down.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30556 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:36 am to
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None of this would be a problem if users just turned to alcohol instead of drugs.



Then they’d be killing other people not just themselves. Alcohol is a terrible drug all around. I’ve done everything under the sun and alcohol is the one that I’d always inevitably get in trouble.

And I’m serious what I said earlier, bring heroin back. The euphoria is way better, has more legs, and less likely to kill ya. Fent is just cheaper and easier to produce I guess, plus the users have to redose far more often so I guess more money.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282476 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:39 am to
Its synthetic, and crudely pressed into pills.

Probably low overhead, easy to produce.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16003 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:43 am to
Seems like they could go after the precursor chemicals, then. Heroin and coke are hard because you can grow the plants and make it. Shouldn't be that hard to find the Indian/Chinese chemical plant that's doing the synthesizing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282476 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:46 am to
Its a waste of time, a new synthetic would be on the market shortly afterwards, probably more dangerous.

Americans spend 150b on illicit drugs every year. Thats one hell of a market and their will always be suppliers.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39843 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 10:01 am to
What the frick are you blathering about you simp?
This post was edited on 2/9/25 at 10:19 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66767 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:39 am to
Hey look, it is the Feds telling us what caused the problem that the Feds caused......
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