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re: FearMongering is back: La sees largest single day increase in cases in 5 months
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:39 pm to c on z
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:39 pm to c on z
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Considering that the OMV in BR temporarily shut down for covid precautions, I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re back to that point again.
Absolute ridiculous bullshite
Vaccinations have been available for every public employee for months. It’s time to let people live with their own decisions.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 3:41 pm
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:39 pm to lsupride87
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Its actually neither. Its simply younger people now make up a higher percentage because the older population is showing up less due to their high vaccination rate
The denominator has changed, not the numerator
That's what I was getting at.
It's why they are saying shite about little kids now to scare people.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:39 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Hence my qualifier: "Able to justify it".
If people aren't getting infected, aren't in the hospital, and aren't dying, they cannot JUSTIFY imposing restrictions.
We know beyond a shadow of a doubt at that point that the vaccinations are effective in preventing those things.
If people aren't getting infected, aren't in the hospital, and aren't dying, they cannot JUSTIFY imposing restrictions.
We know beyond a shadow of a doubt at that point that the vaccinations are effective in preventing those things.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:39 pm to lsupride87
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Its already certain the vaccine helps to prevent severe infection, deaths, and hospitalization
Or did we just burn through the weaker population wile the vaccine was being developed? You don't know tat answer for certain.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:40 pm to lsupride87
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Its actually neither. Its simply younger people now make up a higher percentage because the older population is showing up less due to their high vaccination rate
The denominator has changed, not the numerator
I agree with this and I pointed it out earlier in this thread actually. Really I'm in the middle of something else so wasn't thinking too much.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:40 pm to Fun Bunch
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If people aren't getting infected, aren't in the hospital, and aren't dying, they cannot JUSTIFY imposing restrictions.
They couldn't justify it the first time
You'd think a JBE voter would have learned by now
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:41 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Yes we do.
You don't know tat answer for certain.
The data, and the large amount of it from around the world, showing that covid deaths are 99% in the unvaxxed group, and 95% of hospitalizations in the unvaxxed group, show they reduce these categories
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:43 pm to lsupride87
But is that causation or correlation? It's too soon to know that. I know you understand that even though you aren't going to admit it.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:45 pm to LNCHBOX
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They couldn't justify it the first time
Justify is subjective.
They could because they had a large number of people in the hospital and a large number of deaths.
They cannot if they don't. Or SHOULDN'T be able to.
I'll refrain from responding to the ad hominem attacks. You can do better.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:46 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:You are 100% wrong
I know you understand that even though you aren't going to admit it.
The highest vaccinated group is those that are old and weaK.
So, if the vaccine didnt have an outcome on severe infection and deaths, we should be seeing more vaccinated people dying than those unvaxxed,
And 99% of deaths being in the unvaxxed group isnt something you can say "is that correlation or causation"
Thats laughable, and quite honestly, even surprising for a poster like yourself
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:47 pm to Fun Bunch
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They cannot if they don't
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I'll refrain from responding to the ad hominem attacks. You can do better.
You could post your data, but apparently you aren't better.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:48 pm to lsupride87
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You are 100% wrong
It isn't certain yet no matter how many times you repeat yourself.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:50 pm to Fun Bunch
The UK data is pretty interesting. One glaring difference is more than 87% of adults (over 18) in the UK have received at least 1 shot and nearly 70% of adults are fully vaccinated.
The rate of vaccination for adults in the US is below this level and is well below in many states, including Louisiana.
I don’t think this wave will generate the level of death we saw this past winter, but given where we are with vaccination I do think you will see a spike in deaths not yet seen in the UK from the spread of the delta variant.
It simply can’t be said enough - functionally every adult covid death from here on out in the US is an avoidable death. And avoidable without the need of any additional social distancing, masking, or other behavioral changes.
The rate of vaccination for adults in the US is below this level and is well below in many states, including Louisiana.
I don’t think this wave will generate the level of death we saw this past winter, but given where we are with vaccination I do think you will see a spike in deaths not yet seen in the UK from the spread of the delta variant.
It simply can’t be said enough - functionally every adult covid death from here on out in the US is an avoidable death. And avoidable without the need of any additional social distancing, masking, or other behavioral changes.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:53 pm to ned nederlander
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The rate of vaccination for adults in the US is below this level and is well below in many states, including Louisiana.
Don't ignore previously infected.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:59 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Its certain
It isn't certain yet no matter how many times you repeat yourself.
quote:So your answer to me is that those numbers could be one giant coincidence that the vaccinated only represent that small percentage?
An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 107,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 1.1%.
And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 4:00 pm to lsupride87
Ah, we trust the AP to give us factual information and not push an agenda
Can you just admit there is a difference in being 99% sure and certain?
Can you just admit there is a difference in being 99% sure and certain?
Posted on 7/15/21 at 4:03 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Yes
Can you just admit there is a difference in being 99% sure and certain?
But there is 100% certainty the vaccine helps prevent severe infection and deaths
Posted on 7/15/21 at 4:03 pm to LNCHBOX
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Ah, we trust the AP to give us factual information and not push an agenda
frick no
Posted on 7/15/21 at 4:03 pm to lsupride87
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But there is 100% certainty the vaccine helps prevent severe infection and deaths
Can't ever turn it off, can you?
Posted on 7/15/21 at 4:03 pm to lsupride87
Why are you bothering?
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