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re: FearMongering is back: La sees largest single day increase in cases in 5 months

Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:27 pm to
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Probably because it was made in a lab and specifically designed to be deadly and to be deadly when it mutates.

As smart as humans are it’s not possible to create a virus and determine how that virus will mutate
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:27 pm to
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and to be deadly when it mutates.


I'd ask for you data to back this up, but you're just going to not do that
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:27 pm to
People can still test positive. Vaccinated people that do are for the most part not getting any serious symptoms or being hospitalized.

Unvaxxed are, which is the issue and which is what will give the tyranical government a reason to regain some power.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:29 pm to
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I'd ask for you data to back this up, but you're just going to not do that


There's data from England that suggests its about the same deadly as regular covid was, just a bit more contagious.

It does seem like this one is effecting younger people more this time just from what I've read, but i have no data whatsoever to support that, nor am I going to bother looking for it.

I generally don't care about covid, I only care about the government using this as an opportunity. They wouldn't have the opportunity if more people were vaccinated, in my opinion.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:29 pm to
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Vaccinated people that do are for the most part not getting any serious symptoms or being hospitalized.


Neither are unvaccinated. Yes at a higher rate than vaccinated, but for the most part they aren’t.

Eta
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 3:33 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:30 pm to
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They wouldn't have the opportunity if more people were vaccinated, in my opinion.




I'm getting a pretty clear picture into how you were duped into voting for JBE and getting your family to as well.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:30 pm to
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As smart as humans are it’s not possible to create a virus and determine how that virus will mutate




Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:31 pm to
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So yes, Covid as it relates to draconian measures


You were so close!
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:31 pm to
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Yes at a higher rate than vaccinated,


I think that's an understatement. Its a significant difference.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:33 pm to
But STILL the vast majority have mild symptoms.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:33 pm to
Just to be clear, yes or no:

1: Will vaccination levels have any significant affect on covid infections, hospitalizations and deaths?

2: If yes, would that have an affect on the government being able to reimpose restrictions, or at least being able to justify it?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:35 pm to
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1: Will vaccination levels have any significant affect on covid infections, hospitalizations and deaths?


To be determined.

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2: If yes, would that have an affect on the government being able to reimpose restrictions, or at least being able to justify it?


They're taking that power regardless of what logic says they should do. You're delusional if you think these decisions are being made logically.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:36 pm to
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It does seem like this one is effecting younger people more this time just from what I've read


What do you mean by "more?"

More serious complications or more infections?

Because the latter would be totally expected considering vaccinated groups.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:37 pm to
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To be determined.

Thats ridiculous
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39771 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:37 pm to
All the data is showing the answer to question number 1 is yes.

I agree with your answer to number 2 is spot on. Nothing has been logical about the power grabs.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:37 pm to
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If yes, would that have an affect on the government being able to reimpose restrictions, or at least being able to justify it?

Considering that the OMV in BR temporarily shut down for covid precautions, I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re back to that point again.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:38 pm to
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Thats ridiculous


Because I choose to not speak in certainties
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:38 pm to
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What do you mean by "more?"

More serious complications or more infections?

Because the latter would be totally expected considering vaccinated groups.

Its actually neither. Its simply younger people now make up a higher percentage because the older population is showing up less due to their high vaccination rate

The denominator has changed, not the numerator
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40120 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:38 pm to
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Will vaccination levels have any significant affect on covid infections, hospitalizations and deaths?


Go pull up the UK's chart and this appears largely answered already.

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2: If yes, would that have an affect on the government being able to reimpose restrictions, or at least being able to justify it


Only a few hospitals had issues without vaccination. There is no credible threat to the US health system at large now.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 3:39 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103980 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:38 pm to
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Because I choose to not speak in certainties
Its already certain the vaccine helps to prevent severe infection, deaths, and hospitalization

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