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re: FBI officially Investigating California shooting as a act of terrorism

Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:45 am to
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:45 am to
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Get chased out of range of their device?


dammit, syed. i told you to pay the extra for a 4G trigger because the WiFi signal might be flaky.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:45 am to
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quote: The report, sent to members of Congress on Friday, found that in the 1970s, mass public shootings killed roughly six people a year and injured two.


Yeah. Given the FBI data cited, you could have zero for 1970-1975 and it wouldn't get you to the average the study quoted.

My guess is that the study is being tricky and using "public mass shootings" for the 70s and not all mass shootings.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:46 am to
One is victims of mass shootings, not necessarily shot or injured, but were involved?

The other is the number that were actually killed?

Maybe I'm wrong about that, but that's how I read it. Maybe it's is a mistake.

But I'll ask you, serious question. Do you think they're on the rise or decline.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:46 am to
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Was anything said about why the explosive they planted did not go off?


Explosive devices are relatively easy to make.

The real trick is the firing/detonation device. They are notoriously unreliable in IEDs, and vary wildly in proportion to the skill and experience of the bomb maker.

They may have been command detonated and they chose not to because the initial shooting went so well for them.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:47 am to
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They are notoriously unreliable in IEDs, and vary wildly in proportion to the skill and experience of the bomb maker.


next time hire the clock boy and this wont be a problem.
Posted by Langston
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:47 am to
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One is victims of mass shootings, not necessarily shot or injured




Only in America could a shooting victim not be shot.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 10:50 am
Posted by Bucktail1
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:47 am to
Not really...I have a 357 mag that will shoot through 1/2 steel plate, so it takes quite a bit to stop higher caliber rounds
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:48 am to
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i like the new term CNN coined "hybrid"
They also coined "white Hispanic" when they found out George Zimmerman wasn't a white guy from the suburbs. Gotta be a white guy to have a racist angle, so just invent one.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 10:49 am
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:48 am to
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But I'll ask you, serious question. Do you think they're on the rise or decline.


You forgot the question mark.

And the data from the 1970's obviously shows they're on the decline.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:48 am to
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They also coined "white Hispanic" when they found out George Zimmerman wasn't a white gut from the suburbs. Gotta be a white guy to have a racist angle, so just invent one.


forgot about that one.

ohh, cnn. you devil.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:49 am to
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Maybe I'm wrong about that,
Yep
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but that's how I read it

Wasn't sure you could actually read.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:49 am to


Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:50 am to
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Not really...I have a 357 mag that will shoot through 1/2 steel plate


No, you don't.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:50 am to
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Wasn't sure you could actually read.

So, ignore my question? Are they on the rise or decline?

:crickets:

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:50 am to
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LOL does anyone believe this a-hole anymore?


Americans are pretty stupid, baw.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:52 am to
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So, ignore my question? Are they on the rise or decline?

I don't think there's much of a change either way. The metrics used in all these studies are a moving target.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:53 am to
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FBI retracts bogus mass shooting study
Another troubling aspect of the Obama administration is its politicization of the government’s statistical agencies, which are supposed to be free of politics. In the latest instance, the FBI commissioned a bogus report on mass shootings, which it has now been forced to retract:

Last September the Obama administration produced an FBI report that said mass shooting attacks and deaths were up sharply—by an average annual rate of about 16% between 2000 and 2013. Moreover, the problem was worsening. “The findings establish an increasing frequency of incidents,” said the authors. “During the first 7 years included in the study, an average of 6.4 incidents occurred annually. In the last 7 years of the study, that average increased to 16.4 incidents annually.” . . .

But late last week, J. Pete Blair and M. Hunter Martaindale, two academics at Texas State University who co-authored the FBI report, acknowledged that “our data is imperfect.” They said that the news media “got it wrong” last year when they “mistakenly reported mass shootings were on the rise.”

Alas, but surprisingly, the retraction was issued with much, much less fanfare than the original bogus report.

It’s worth noting that criminologist John Lott debunked the study almost immediately, while the report’s authors dithered for the better part of a year before admitting he was right.


LINK
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:53 am to
Thank you for your response.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:54 am to
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:56 am to
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I have a 357 mag that will shoot through 1/2 steel plate


I'd like to see that. I've seen 1/4" steel plate stop a .357 mag
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