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re: FBI officially Investigating California shooting as a act of terrorism
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:51 am to fouldeliverer
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:51 am to fouldeliverer
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did not say that was my interpretation. I stated explicitly that it was the interpretation of the courts for many years.
And during that time, "militia" meant, for most communities, even in places like Boston, Philadelphia, etc., all free men in a community.
You want to go back to that definition of militia, then I'm fine.
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:51 am to Jake88
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Fox: Probable radical Islamic act of terror by a married couple.
Was there a third shooter?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:52 am to Jake88
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Fox: Probable radical Islamic act of terror by a married couple.
Rest of media: workplace violence after employee triggered at Christmas party
Yeah. He was so pissed he went home, got his wife, put on tactical gear, packed his car with bombs and guns and went back to kill everyone.
Not saying it was ISIS but it wasn't workplace violence.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:53 am to NYNolaguy1
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Was there a third shooter?
No.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:53 am to bamarep
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He specifically said he didn't report his suspicions because he didn't want to be labeled as a racial profiler.
That seems to be the goal of the clock maker family - to shame those who would be suspicious of sketchy muslims.
I'm not saying they're related, of course, but part of a larger pattern.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:54 am to bamarep
There is a lot more going on with this than we know. There is a reason CAIR got organized so fast, and had a press release within hours of this all happening. This is the same CAIR that has been a known supporter of terrorism.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:54 am to AndyCBR
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No.
Thanks. When I went to bed they were saying a third person had been detained. I guess he wasn't relevant to the incident?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:55 am to Ace Midnight
Yeah frick that. I have Muslim friends who would have went to the police if they saw that.
White guilt is the problem. Luckily I don't have that disease.
White guilt is the problem. Luckily I don't have that disease.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:56 am to biohzrd
The prime suspect went to Saudia Arabia for a month this past spring and came back with a new "wife" he met online. Now we are digging through her past history. Not looking good for the religion of peace.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:56 am to NYNolaguy1
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Thanks. When I went to bed they were saying a third person had been detained. I guess he wasn't relevant to the incident?
I think he was just running from the scene. At this time they are not reporting a third gunman/driver/accomplice.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:57 am to gatorrocks
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Yeah frick that. I have Muslim friends who would have went to the police if they saw that.
White guilt is the problem. Luckily I don't have that disease.
Funniest post in this thread.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:57 am to Ace Midnight
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That seems to be the goal of the clock maker family - to shame those who would be suspicious of sketchy muslims.
I'm not saying they're related, of course, but part of a larger pattern.
The telling part of this whole situation was the tightly controlled CAIR presser last night in which a CAIR lawyer and spokeswoman kept a short leash on the BIL of the suspect while he made a statement and answered a few questions.
The fact that CAIR immediately went into damage control tells me that this has absolutely nothing to do with the "workplace violence" narrative that liberals so desperately want it to be.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:58 am to terd ferguson
The increased frequency of mass shootings shootings is alarming. The motivations of the individuals are varied. Some suffer from some type of mental illnes and their past indicates such. Others seem to be somewhat normal members of society and then a hysteric rage overtakes them. In number of them are motivated by religious or political ideology.
How they obtained their weapons and the type of weapons used has varied as well. There doesn't seem to be sufficient correlations that form a pattern.
I don't think more gun control is necessarily the answer. It's quite difficult to develop solutions when there doesn't seem to be a uniform problem to address. But the extreme divisiveness and demagoguery that occurs in the aftermath is disheartening. We have people on the left "prayer-shaming" and people in the right seemingly unwilling to participate in a rational attempt of compromise.
This is quite evident in the responses to my and others posts. It's just sad. People have enclosed themselves in echo chambers where they only listen to reaffirm what they already think.
How they obtained their weapons and the type of weapons used has varied as well. There doesn't seem to be sufficient correlations that form a pattern.
I don't think more gun control is necessarily the answer. It's quite difficult to develop solutions when there doesn't seem to be a uniform problem to address. But the extreme divisiveness and demagoguery that occurs in the aftermath is disheartening. We have people on the left "prayer-shaming" and people in the right seemingly unwilling to participate in a rational attempt of compromise.
This is quite evident in the responses to my and others posts. It's just sad. People have enclosed themselves in echo chambers where they only listen to reaffirm what they already think.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 9:04 am
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:58 am to Ace Midnight
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And during that time, "militia" meant, for most communities, even in places like Boston, Philadelphia, etc., all free men in a community.
You want to go back to that definition of militia, then I'm fine.
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
-George Mason
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:59 am to biohzrd
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There is a lot more going on with this than we know. There is a reason CAIR got organized so fast, and had a press release within hours of this all happening. This is the same CAIR that has been a known supporter of terrorism.
Exactly
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:59 am to biohzrd
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There is a reason CAIR got organized so fast, and had a press release within hours of this all happening.
It was shockingly contrite from them, too. I'm guessing they were just trying to get ahead of it.
The bombs are going to make it tough to spin the workplace violence angle, but I guess the MSM has their marching orders. Not sure even Americans are that stupid, though.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 9:00 am
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:00 am to AndyCBR
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At this time they are not reporting a third gunman/driver/accomplice.
Thanks.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:00 am to Ace Midnight
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Not sure even Americans are that stupid, though.
You had me up until that.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:01 am to Ace Midnight
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It was shockingly contrite from them, too. I'm guessing they were just trying to get ahead of it.
They had the BIL by the nutsack last night. I've never seen such a tightly controlled press conference.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:02 am to terd ferguson
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You had me up until that.
I was clearly equivocal on that with the "not sure"
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