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re: Favorite Founding Father?
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:39 pm to bountyhunter
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:39 pm to bountyhunter
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John Adams had more influence on the design of the legal system than any other founding father. While not perfect its principles set the basis for almost all modern legal systems. The man was a genius and he definitely married a woman that also helped him to stay humble.
The downfall for Adams is that he favored a strong federal government over state’s rights.
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Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:44 pm to High C
quote:Of course , but the Boston Massacre ( 1770) was six years before the Declaration of Independence & John Adams proudly defended the British soldiers in court & had most of them acquitted/ reduced charges.There were other British attacks & Acts that also inflamed colonists.
You’ll get no argument from me there, but this was a pretty big piece of said propaganda:
Thomas Paine's Common Sense( Jan 1776) argued for Independence from the crown & a new Republic. Paine helped galvanized public opinion against the crown. If you can't get the masses to follow / understand the importance of Independence then there is no revolution. This is where Paine steps in.
This post was edited on 7/3/21 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:47 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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The downfall for Adams is that he favored a strong federal government over state’s rights.
The downfall for Adams was his vanity. He seemed like a tough person to be around and work with. The Alien and Sedition Acts were also a black mark on his record.
This post was edited on 7/3/21 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:51 pm to sugar71
I was just just pointing out the importance of Revere’s work of pure propaganda in moving the revolutionary movement forward.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:52 pm to SixthAndBarone
That was the 2nd time. The first was when he left Richmond, as Governor, as a British armada approached.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:55 pm to GetCocky11
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The downfall for Adams was his vanity. He seemed like a tough person to be around and work with. The Alien and Sedition Acts were also a black mark on his record.
He was a hold out for a long time when it came to declaring independence. He didn’t want to rock the boat with the king. A coward compared to most of them. Patrick Henry’s speech can be attributed for winning the holdouts over.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:59 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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A coward compared to most of them.
Not really. Independence was a pretty radical thing. I'd imagine reconciliation and remaining in the Empire was the goal of most going into the Continental Congress.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 7:03 pm to c on z
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None of them
If you were the majority of people on the planet, we’d all be living in shackles while you begged for crumbs from the power holders.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 7:22 pm to High C
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I consider him more of a shite stirrer
Yes he was and that is what I like about him. If it wasn't for men like him, the Revolution may have not happened. He was the head of the Sons of Liberty and signed the Declaration of Independence. John Adams is my second favorite followed by Jefferson and Washington.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 7:28 pm to fr33manator
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Ben Franklin
Didn't he suggest revisions to the Constitution every few years so keep the Federal Government's power limited and check?
Posted on 7/3/21 at 8:07 pm to LarryByrd
The three finalists are presidents 1, 2, and 3.
George Washington was the glue that held everything together. He was doing all of the dangerous, dirty work while the rest of them were philosophizing. There was no doubt as to who the first president would be. G.W. was the unifying figure who held the country together in the early days.
John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were the two intellectual heavyweights behind the fight for independence. I will give the nod there to TJ, but I became a great admirer of Adams after reading David McCullough's biography of him.
George Washington was the glue that held everything together. He was doing all of the dangerous, dirty work while the rest of them were philosophizing. There was no doubt as to who the first president would be. G.W. was the unifying figure who held the country together in the early days.
John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were the two intellectual heavyweights behind the fight for independence. I will give the nod there to TJ, but I became a great admirer of Adams after reading David McCullough's biography of him.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:03 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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The downfall for Adams is that he favored a strong federal government over state’s rights.
The States ceding rights to the fledging Federal government is part of the bargain contained in the US Constitution.
I think moreso Adams was driven to establish those parts of the Federal government created by the Constitution, but which did not yet exist, in an effort to see that the experiment did not fail like the confederation created under the Articles of Confederation.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:50 pm to LarryByrd
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Thomas Jefferson, GOAT Founding Father.
Has to be this.
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