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re: Fauci Says Now is The Time to Eliminate Freedom, Forced Vaccinations Are Required

Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:41 pm to
99% survival rate
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10919 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:42 pm to
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Thanks for answering. Now, would you say you are always a proponent of big govt like that?


Uhh the fed government should provide military, roads and infrastructure and very little else.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72778 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:43 pm to
you know my answer to the question.

and you also know the ends do not justify the means you support and cheer on.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:43 pm to
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Uhh the fed government should provide military, roads and infrastructure and very little else.


But you think they should also force employers to hire unvaxxed employees
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107901 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:44 pm to
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you know my answer to the question.

I honestly don’t, so please answer
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and you also know the ends do not justify the means you support and cheer on.

Im not cheering anything on im simply stating I don’t care if vaccinations is a term of employment because I think that should be a right of the employer

And even if 100% of people were vaccinated I have no doubt Democrats would still try and use covid on their advantage
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 9:45 pm
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10919 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:47 pm to
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But you think they should also force employers to hire unvaxxed employees



What? Where did you get that from? Did I say fed gov should regulate who a business can hire?

That wasn't on my list and I certainly wouldn't agree that should be a fed gov function.


Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:47 pm to
Ok. So then you do think an employer has the right to only hire vaccinated employees?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72778 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:49 pm to
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And even if 100% of people were vaccinated I have no doubt Democrats would still try and use covid on their advantage


then why waste time arguing with me and other posters on the rights of the employer? when you know its egregious and we should be pushing back on vaccine mandates
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10919 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:51 pm to
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Ok. So then you do think an employer has the right to only hire vaccinated employees?


An employer should be able to hire whomever they want based on whatever policy they want.

Without any government intervention, period.
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 9:52 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107901 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:54 pm to
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when you know its egregious and we should be pushing back on vaccine mandates


Because I don’t think we should push back on this. This should absolutely be allowed by employers. That’s my ENTIRE point, I believe a business should have the right to do this

You are trying to take the rights away from a business because you don’t want them to do that, yet ylu claim I’m the big govt Nazi
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107901 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:54 pm to
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An employer should be able to hire whomever they want based on whatever policy they want.

Without any government intervention, period.

Then we 100% agree
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10919 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 9:58 pm to
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You are trying to take the rights away from a business because you don’t want them to do that, yet ylu claim I’m the big govt Nazi



Well in fairness I was under the impression you want the gov to step in and mandate laws rather than letting private business set their own policy independence from gov.

If forner you are trending big gov Nazi, if latter you are American.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107901 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:01 pm to
If a business wants to have no masks and no vaccines, I’m all for it

If a business wants to mask their assholes and face and require vaccines, I’m all for it

I don’t think the govt should force the masks or vaccines on the business
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72778 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:02 pm to
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yet ylu claim I’m the big govt Nazi


I’ve never uttered anything of the sort and you know it.

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This should absolutely be allowed by employers. That’s my ENTIRE point, I believe a business should have the right to do this


I don’t believe the MO of your argument is the employers rights to do so.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107901 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:05 pm to
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I don’t believe the MO of your argument is the employers rights to do so.
You can believe whatever you want

My main takes on covid are

1. There should have never been a single restriction or mandate since the beginning

2. The vaccines work

3. No matter what the numbers are the Democrats will use it to their advantage as long as they can

4. The govt should not mandate vaccines, but if business and other entities choose to do so that is their right
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72778 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:10 pm to
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My main takes on covid are 1. There should have never been a single restriction or mandate since the beginning 2. The vaccines work 3. No matter what the numbers are the Democrats will use it to their advantage as long as they can 4. The govt should not mandate vaccines, but if business and other entities choose to do so that is their right


what’s funny is. we agree on all of those things.

and the thing is. i’m not against the vaccines. i think people should get them if they want them. i’m extremely vaccinated. more so than 99% of the pro vaxxers, due to international business travel.

with that said. no on mandates. no on pressuring employers to mandate employees get vaccines. the mandates are contrary to the data and the basic notions of liberty.

We know a vaccinate person, statistically has almost no risk of harm from COVID.I believe, the unvaccinated should be free to risk their own health and have had almost 8 full months to get vaccinated. But you don’t get to forcibly change their minds.
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 10:17 pm
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
31994 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:50 pm to
You're right. I do enjoy my personal freedom. Try and make me get the vaccine you dip shite crook.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
31994 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:05 pm to
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160 million people have been vaccinated in this country. The vaccines are safe.


So is being unvaccinated you fricking moron. From the very beginning, you had the smallest of chances of getting it and even smaller chance of going to the hospital, and an even smaller chance of dying from it.

Another brainwashed sheep you are.
Posted by Smellslikeupdog
Member since Jul 2021
79 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:55 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 4:00 pm
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