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re: Fauci predicts millions of coronavirus cases in US and 100,000-200,000 deaths

Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:06 pm to
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It's not worth it. RB argued for pages and pages in a thread that the IHME projection of 60k (at that time) was the high run instead of the median.


I'd rather make that mistake, and own up to it, than claim only 70 people die in car accidents each year and then try to claim it was a typo.

To each his own though.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:07 pm to
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I'd rather make that mistake, and own up to it, than claim only 70 people die in car accidents each year and then try to claim it was a typo.



ETA: you didn't actually own up to your dumbass mistake because you're making the same argument here lmao
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 4:10 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:11 pm to
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ETA: you didn't actually own up to your dumbass mistake because you're making the same argument here lmao


I'm actually pointing out different models. I know following along is something you struggle with though. Carry on.

ETA: I understand that the rate this virus is diminishing is making you look more and more foolish, but lashing out doesn't solve your problems. If it makes you feel better though, do you.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:25 pm to
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I'm actually pointing out different models


Which ones? Specifically.

Because this is what you said:

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You're another one who had no problem plastering the models and projections all over this board even though people were questioning the methods and underlying data. Interestingly enough, the people questioning it turned out to be correct.


So which models was I plastering all over this board that others correctly determined were wrong?

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:26 pm to
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I understand that the rate this virus is diminishing is making you look more and more foolish, but lashing out doesn't solve your problems. If it makes you feel better though, do you.


You've been lashing out for weeks about models you didn't bother to actually read correctly, and then argued about it for pages and pages after being shown, repeatedly, what you were ignoring
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:32 pm to
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Inaccurate "gotcha" claims and laughing emojis is what you've been reduced to? That's not surprising considering your stance on this situation turned out to be quite cringe worthy.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:34 pm to
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That's not surprising considering your stance on this situation turned out to be quite cringe worthy.


What has been my stance, in your opinion?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:50 pm to
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What has been my stance, in your opinion?


Just like the other poster, I'm not going to spend my time digging through your bullshite posts. This topic has been too widely discussed for me to bother.

If you want to sit there and act like you haven't belittled the notion that this virus is only a slight bit worse than the seasonal flu, be my guest. Anyone who's spent time posting here in the last month knows that's bullshite though.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 4:54 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:52 pm to
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just like the other poster, I'm not going to spend my time digging through your bullshite posts.


You don’t have to dig through my post to answer the question.

Which model have a plastered all over the board that other posters correctly showed was terribly wrong?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:55 pm to
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you haven't belittled the notion that this virus is only a slight bit worse than the seasonal flu,


Oh I definitely have done that. Why wouldn't I? It's true.
Posted by Flavius Belisarius
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:59 pm to
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That’s not true. If Karen’s are hysterical, fearful white women, what name should we use for people that parrot false narratives


What part is not true?

The Imperial college paper?

quote:

Perhaps our most significant conclusion is that mitigation is unlikely to be feasible without emergency surge capacity limits of the UK and US healthcare systems being exceeded many times over. In the most effective mitigation strategy examined, which leads to a single, relatively short epidemic (case isolation, household quarantine and social distancing of the elderly), the surge limits for both general ward and ICU beds would be exceeded by at least 8-fold under the more optimistic scenario for critical care requirements that we examined. In addition, even if all patients were able to be treated, we predict there would still be in the order of 250,000 deaths in GB, and 1.1-1.2 million deaths in the US


Link to Imperial College paper

I don’t have the original IHME paper in front of me, but it was similar. These 2 papers are the basis for our response. Now Karen, who’s parroting a false narrative?



Posted by Scruffy
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:04 pm to
The imperial college model was the basis for the initial panic.

It was run into the ground by everyone as what was going to happen.

The data within it gets attributed to the IHME model unfairly, which wasn’t even remotely as skewed.

I lay most blame on the IC model and everyone who used it to push their narratives.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:10 pm to
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I don’t have the original IHME paper in front of me, but it was similar. These 2 papers are the basis for our response. Now Karen, who’s parroting a false narrative?


Still you, boss.

Go back one page. I already explained it in this thread.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51031 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:10 pm to
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Oh I definitely have done that. Why wouldn't I? It's true.


It's not, at all. Please, keep saying it is though. You making a fool of yourself doesn't affect me in the slightest.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 5:12 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:14 pm to
The average seasonal flu takes like 30k in 5-6 months. I don't consider nearly double the death count in half the time as "slightly worse" but do you bro
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:16 pm to
What’s “slightly bit worse”?

If this thing ends up being six times as deadly as the average influenza season, is that only a “slightly bit worse?”
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51031 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:20 pm to
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The average seasonal flu takes like 30k in 5-6 months. I don't consider nearly double the death count in half the time as "slightly worse" but do you bro


How long has the virus been here? Speculation now is early January. So, ~30k in 5-6 months vs. ~50k in 3-4 months.

The phrase "slightly worse" seems appropriate when looking at the big picture.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51031 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:22 pm to
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If this thing ends up being six times as deadly as the average influenza season, is that only a “slightly bit worse?”


Given recent data, there's no reason to believe this is the case. In fact, some of the newest data is saying it's roughly as deadly, even without a vaccine.

Your hypothetical is irrelevant.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:25 pm to
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How long has the virus been here? Speculation now is early January. So, ~30k in 5-6 months vs. ~50k in 3-4 months.


So like at least twice as bad assuming no one died in January /earlier in February and no one else well die past today. Lmao.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 5:26 pm to
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Given recent data, there's no reason to believe this is the case. In fact, some of the newest data is saying it's roughly as deadly, even without a vaccine.


What data?

You do know that there may be some significant problems with the antibody tests?
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