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re: Family releases video of son dying in police custody *GRAPHIC & NSFW*
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:21 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:21 pm to Darth_Vader
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And the jailers knew full well the entire time that he had prescriptions for these medicines and yet they neglected to give them to him
Can you link this? Nowhere in your article does it say they knew.
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Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:22 pm to Topwater Trout
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blame everyone else but the addict right? that should help all of them get clean
You mean, the guy trying to get clean?
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:22 pm to dagrippa
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he didn't deserve to die over a parking ticket.
He didn't die over a parking ticket.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:23 pm to Barf
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Little men who like to complain about people who invite you to share their wedding day because you would rather be watching a bunch of children play a game.
I agree with them about weddings on college football Saturdays. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:23 pm to Darth_Vader
I think we should give it up, man.
We are clearly the idiots here.
We are clearly the idiots here.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:24 pm to Jobin
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Can you link this? Nowhere in your article does it say they knew.
Well then it is negligence, because he was supposed to go to a medical drug detox unit. He did not.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:25 pm to Darth_Vader
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He was getting clean via the medication prescribed by his doctor. The guards neglected to give him that medication and that's what killed him.
no addict has ever been getting clean through meds and started using again?
I have never defended the guards. Its obvious they/the prison med staff were wrong not getting this guy help.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:27 pm to Topwater Trout
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This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:27 pm to Kcoyote
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he was supposed to go
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They don't necessarily have to follow the recommendations of jail nurses. Especially if they feel he would be a danger or something. Obviously none of us know all of the details....and I'm playing devil's advocate. So there's that.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:27 pm to Jobin
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And the jailers knew full well the entire time that he had prescriptions for these medicines and yet they neglected to give them to him
Can you link this? Nowhere in your article does it say they knew.
That info came from a different link than the one in the OP. Here it is again....
LINK
and here's what it says...
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The lawsuit says Stojcevski was on Xanax, and other medications including a daily dose of 60 mg of methadone, which is generally used for recovering heroin addicts. The medication was listed on his intake forms, the suit says.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:28 pm to Topwater Trout
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no addict has ever been getting clean through meds and started using again?
Of course, however multiple doctors have confirmed the cause of his death was withdrawal from his prescription medications, along with the symptoms he experienced including marked weight loss, seizures, hallucinations and death. A cocktail of methadone to recover from heroin, klonopin and xanax being stopped abruptly in an adverse environment without special attention can be a death sentence. We aren't even talking about possible comorbidities he could have had.
Even if he was withdrawing from heroin, he should not have been placed in a regular jail cell, then a psych ward. He needed to go to detox.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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RogerTheShrubber
Just dropping in to say you, Darth and many others are on the right side of this, naturally. The contrarian posts here are just mind-numbing, unconscionable and sad to me.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:32 pm to Kcoyote
Also should be noted that heroin withdrawal is over in days. Like 4-5 days. Maybe less.
Methadone withdrawal is consistent with a multi-week withdrawal period.
Seems like 17 days fits the latter doesn't it?
Just some food for thought for everyone calling him a junkie. He WAS a junkie, then became a legal prescription drug user.
Methadone withdrawal is consistent with a multi-week withdrawal period.
Seems like 17 days fits the latter doesn't it?
Just some food for thought for everyone calling him a junkie. He WAS a junkie, then became a legal prescription drug user.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:35 pm to Sao
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The contrarian posts here are just mind-numbing, unconscionable and sad to me.
It's a strong mindset, and will make you lose a bit of faith in humanity.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
It's different with some as we know. Sad.
If this were a thread about some hound dying of Parvo and it were given a bacon double from Sonic as it's last meal, everyone would be all awwwee... I mean, Duck shite the floor and chewed some table legs but that's what dogs do.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:45 pm to NYNolaguy1
No you're wrong. I don't want my taxes going to treat or support him and I dgaf if he dies from his addiction. Doesn't mean someone should be able to kill him
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:47 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
I never said the guy deserved to die bc he was a junkie. Or that the prison had no responsibility. I admit being cold hearted and that is due to what I've seen addicts do to their families
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:48 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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Doesn't mean someone should be able to kill him
Well, technically, they didn't kill him. They just watched him die and made note of his condition on a report every 15 minutes while it happened. So they've got that going for them, which is nice.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:51 pm to CadesCove
I know. That was in response to the comparison that the guy was just as good as executed
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:51 pm to CadesCove
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They just watched him die and made note of his condition on a report every 15 minutes while it happened
Exactly. No one really kills anyone. I mean, if a guy stabs someone, he didn't really kill them. Blood loss killed them. They just documented their condition. I think we've formed the state's defense here.
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