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re: Failed DISA Drug Screen

Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:50 am to
Posted by Das_Wanda_kid
Member since Apr 2017
438 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:50 am to
I hope that was some awesome weed
Posted by slick50
Member since Jan 2015
197 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:51 am to
Take it from ol slick, plenty of semi - decent gigs out there cuzz and you’ll be ok. Nothing wrong with Walmart
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
10180 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:51 am to
Drugs are bad, mkay!
Posted by warlock1974
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2015
1769 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:13 am to
This is part of my job so I am very familiar with the process.

DISA has a Return To Work program which will make him eligible for rehire for most employers after completing an approved drug rehab program.

He can get details from DISA if interested
Posted by MrFahrenheitDontLie
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
269 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:14 am to
i mean i guess he can get it cleared up then
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
9653 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:17 am to
He has options.

1st he has to complete a DISA compliant “rehab” type program.
2nd he may be required to have a set amount of witnesses tests for a while.
3rd get a non-DISA job.

Some companies (Enterprise Products) prohibit anyone with any failed tests in their past from working at their facilities.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
13358 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:27 am to
I know two people who failed and had not taken anything.

When you know you’re going to be hair tested every so many months, they know better than to put their career at risk. One guy got a positive hit for illegal substance... but the test found no traces of his prescribed medicine he took daily.

Them some crooked fricks over there. Or just completely fricking incompetent. Maybe both.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
13358 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:28 am to
Exactly, they pop ppl woth false positives and then charge for their rehab programs. Its bullshite.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
43335 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:34 am to
quote:

tidalmouse
Hunter Biden may have some advice.



Man if there’s any proof that life isn’t fair, this is it.
Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
10504 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:38 am to
Not that he can't get hired after a fail, just makes it a lot harder. Lots of people will figure out a way to pass over your friend. Some drug users (not all) figure out a way to frick up, just a regular day at work. I will pass more times than not on your friend.
Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
1422 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:42 am to
They just changed return to work policies too.

Mandatory 6 months red light in the DISA system + Drug Awareness Counseling + Return To Work Drug Test.

If it's a failed UA they will watch you piss. Failed hair follicle they'll make you wait the full 6 months before letting you do the return to work.

Oh and the drug counseling + cost of return to work test is going to run you an easy $500+ if you find a good counselor to sign off on you.

And you'll be on a probation period for 3-5 years where your name is in a separate database for random supervised testing.

Find a new construction site with a company that doesnt run DISA as their hire-in tester.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14495 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:47 am to
What does a "DISA" test even look for?
Posted by Texas ellessu
East Bank of Ward's Creek
Member since Dec 2007
538 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:47 am to
your buddy may not want to hear you tell him this, but drug testing is there to suppress certain activity employers can't afford. They will have no problem filling his position. DISA dominates the petrochemical industry. that positive test will follow him forever. Even if he rehabs, few employers (relying on DISA) will take a chance. It's not the way it supposed to be. Employers used to be known for giving everyone a second chance. Not any more.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:56 am to
Put down the pots, Cheech.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40379 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:59 am to
Learn to code.
Posted by Vacherie
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2017
450 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:00 am to
DISA is a very powerful organization. They hold all the cards. Your Buddy is fricked.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
125389 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Employers used to be known for giving everyone a second chance. Not any more.


Thanks lawyers

If accident happens and lawyers find out a guy with failed drug test was involved its on.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:06 am to
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What does a "DISA" test even look for?

Like your typical drug test. DISA is just the organization that administers it and maintains the records. They run DOT compliant tests, so EVERYONE uses them and they've become the de facto gold standard in drug testing services. You go to your collection point (typically an occupational medicine outfit if you're in the BR area) and piss in their cup, sign off on the collection and custody transfer, and then it is sent via courier to a DISA lab (a lot of times, just a standard medical lab contracted by DISA) where the test is actually performed.

Most importantly, their database is also used for HR needs, not just the immediate testing. Employer HR departments that use DISA as their testing service have access to this database. When HR gets your application, the first thing they're going to do is pull up your DISA record. A past hot test in their database, even with the required followup action completed, is enough for many employers to put your application in the big circular filing cabinet, as Cosmo mentioned above. That mark on your record is a lawyer's wet dream if you are later involved in an incident that hurts someone. There are some HUGE facilities that don't want you in their facility with any past positive test and it is in the contract they sign with their contract companies. In this instance, not only are you not getting a job with the primary large facility, you're likely not getting a job with any of their contractors.

A red flag (meaning a hot test with no followup action) in their database is as bad as a hot test for virtually all employers and will exclude you from employment. You turn in a hot DISA sample and you are fricked for employment at MANY different companies and industries because they all look at the same database when deciding to hire.
This post was edited on 1/1/20 at 10:36 am
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94366 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:19 am to
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They just changed return to work policies too.

Mandatory 6 months red light in the DISA system + Drug Awareness Counseling + Return To Work Drug Test.

If it's a failed UA they will watch you piss. Failed hair follicle they'll make you wait the full 6 months before letting you do the return to work.

Oh and the drug counseling + cost of return to work test is going to run you an easy $500+ if you find a good counselor to sign off on you.

And you'll be on a probation period for 3-5 years where your name is in a separate database for random supervised testing.

Find a new construction site with a company that doesnt run DISA as their hire-in tester.


I understand the reasoning behind drug testing, but all of this is goddamn ridiculous.

Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:28 am to
quote:

I understand the reasoning behind drug testing, but all of this is goddamn ridiculous.


If you want to do drugs, that's your choice, but it's the companies' choice whether or not they want you in their workforce. You're free to go work somewhere else that isn't as serious about drug use as places that use DISA are. Typically, places that use DISA revolve around industries where large numbers of people or great potential impact to public safety are involved. As long as they can fill their workforce with people who don't test positive for drugs, they will, if only to keep the fricking lawyers at bay when (not if) an incident happens.

You can bet your sweet arse that if I own a company in an industry where Gordon fricking McKernan is running TV commercials standing on top of my main piece of equipment with the sole purpose of drumming up work that bleeds my industry dry, I'm not hiring someone who ever failed a drug or alcohol test.
This post was edited on 1/1/20 at 10:32 am
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