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re: ETA OT electricians DELIVER! - pool house has light & light switch THANKS
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:29 am to lsujro
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:29 am to lsujro
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i think he means just running one neutral from fixture to switch box. that is all you need, but it wouldn't be protected from elements and most definitely not code. the four wire romex is same thing, except the neutral would be in the sheathing.
I'm not a residential electrician but I think the code changed a while back to you have to have a neutral in a switch box in a inhabited area of a dwelling .... But you do not need a neutral to make a light switch work ....,
I think the reason they changed the code was because of motion sensor switches and such ....
You would have to ask someone who wires houses ......
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Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:31 am to tigerswin03
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I'm not a residential electrician but I think the code changed a while back to you have to have a neutral in a switch box in a inhabited area of a dwelling .... But you do not need a neutral to make a light switch work ....,
keep in mind the wiring was run back in the 1980s.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:31 am to CAD703X
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you just cant stand to be wrong can you
No, I can't. It physically hurts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:42 am to CAD703X
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levtion switch has 4 screw
Why are you using a 4 way switch
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:46 am to CAD703X
Ok so I finally read your op 
Tell me what is this switch going to operate
Tell me what is this switch going to operate
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:52 am to tigerswin03
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Tell me what is this switch going to operate
its a long story, but i am installing an intermatic CA3750 zwave switch for my pool pump.
the achilles heel of those intermatic zwave devices is the way the zwave antenna is installed the range is shorter than your average zwave device and won't reach the 75' to my controller hub inside my house.
so i need a powered zwave device nearby to act as a repeater for the signal.
the logical/cheap choice was to replace the 19 cent switch in the pool house which is 3 feet from the intermatic device with a smart one.
added advantage is i can cut the pool house light off from my house.
long story short, bought a cheap zwave switch, determined it works reliably from my house, but failed when i was unable to turn the light off due to the wiring.
the fact its also a 3-way switch is irrelevant, just describing the switch.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:02 pm to CAD703X
Ok gotcha , so you need the neutral, you could use your ground as it will only pick up the load of the switch and not the fixtures , but if you can run another wire it's probably the best way to go ....
i have put in motion sensor switches that actually have a removable jumper between the neutral and ground screw on the switch, but they cover their arse with a sticker that says remove where required by code ....
i have put in motion sensor switches that actually have a removable jumper between the neutral and ground screw on the switch, but they cover their arse with a sticker that says remove where required by code ....
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:13 pm to tigerswin03
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have a removable jumper between the neutral and ground screw on the switch,
You said it out loud, now you are responsible.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 1:06 pm to tigerswin03
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Ok gotcha , so you need the neutral, you could use your ground as it will only pick up the load of the switch and not the fixtures , but if you can run another wire it's probably the best way to go ....
My original question
Yes nothing will ever be added to this setup but I think the 4 wire Romex is a safer solution albeit not as easy as screwing 3 wires to the switch.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 1:12 pm to cave canem
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You do realize they sell sheathed single wires right?
Why would he need a new run to the supply panel if he is in essence going to just run a jumper anyway?
i only do jumpers in a box. i've never looked for sheathed single wire, so no.
who said anything about running to the supply panel? the power has to be in his fixture box, so he is just replacing the existing run from fixture to switch and tie into existing neutral. it's as simple as a run gets.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 1:35 pm to lsujro
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sorry, misread where the supply was coming from
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ho said anything about running to the supply panel?
sorry, misread where the supply was coming from
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:59 pm to lsujro
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the power has to be in his fixture box, so he is just replacing the existing run from fixture to switch and tie into existing neutral. it's as simple as a run gets.
yes, exactly my thinking.
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