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re: Ellen wants to make you think he's all about love, diversity, and inclusion

Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:40 am to
Posted by Chazzy McRamzee
Member since Jun 2014
2681 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:40 am to
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So you have proof that it is a choice?


No. I'm only giving an opinion, and one example is reproduction. Another poster said it was a FACT that it's not a choice (see above.)
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 4:46 am
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:45 am to
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Your rant seemed more hate filled than any posted so far in this thread. But what do I know


That was my intent. I keep reading some of you guys talk about how others should respect your opposing views on gay people or bitching about the media and society in general demonizing those of you who don't feel like you have to accept that there are gay people in the world. I just don't understand it. What exactly are you opposing? What it is that you feel like you don't have to accept? It doesn't make sense. It would be like if a large (but increasingly smaller every year) portion of the population had an "opposing view" of you being straight. It's retarded. it's just crazy to me that some of you harbor such hatred for something that doesn't affect you. I don't understand why someone actively chooses to hate someone else because of something that they can't help about themselves.
Posted by Chazzy McRamzee
Member since Jun 2014
2681 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:45 am to
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It's hilarious to me when inbreds like you go with that rationale. What an unhappy, miserable existence it must be to be you or someone that's forced to have you in their life. I doubt you've actually ever taken the time to think critically about it or even asked a gay person to get perspective on the issue, but the fact that you actually believe that the majority of gay folks would choose that as a "lifestyle" makes me feel sorry for the future of your undoubtedly dumb children.


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But spewing such ignorant, hateful shite towards a group of people for something about themselves that they can't help is pretty awful.


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But real hatred and ignorance for no reason really bums me out.


Is that you Ellen?
Posted by Chazzy McRamzee
Member since Jun 2014
2681 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:47 am to
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I don't understand why someone actively chooses to hate someone else because of something that they can't help about themselves.


I don't hate someone else based on their lifestyle. I just don't agree with it. Kind of like someone drinking too often.
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:50 am to
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No. I'm only giving an opinion and one example is reproduction. Another poster said it was a FACT that it's not a choice


It IS a fact for some people man, jesus christ. You really think there are that many people that would choose a life of ridicule and guilt and sometimes things like self-hatred etc? Some men are hardwired to love men and the same for women. It may be a defect or a slight crossing of the wires of the brain but for the vast majority of gay people, it is NOT a choice.
Posted by Chazzy McRamzee
Member since Jun 2014
2681 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:50 am to
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It IS a fact for some people man, jesus christ. You really think there are that many people that would choose a life of ridicule and guilt and sometimes things like self-hatred etc? Some men are hardwired to love men and the same for women. It may be a defect or a slight crossing of the wires of the brain but for the vast majority of gay people, it is NOT a choice.



Prove it.
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:52 am to
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I just don't agree with it.


I'm trying to speak sense man but you just don't get it. There's nothing to agree with. It's like saying you don't agree with the sun or you don't agree with a tree. It just is what it is. For some folks, the most natural thing in the world is loving someone of the same sex.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:52 am to
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Some men are hardwired to love men and the same for women


I bet if I put other taboo nouns to replace men and women you wouldn't feel the same way.
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:54 am to
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I bet if I put other taboo nouns to replace men and women you wouldn't feel the same way.


I don't follow, I'm sorry. Explain
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:00 am to
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Chazzy McRamzee



Prove that it is a choice.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:00 am to
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No. I'm only giving an opinion based on reproduction.


I don't understand this concept. You have "an opinion based on reproduction"??? Anyone who has a sexual feeling that is not related to reproducing is "unnatural". Wanting a BJ, HJ, or any J or that matter is now a disgusting abomination. I mean, I'll give credit to someone for sticking to their guns if they are a bible thumper who really thinks that anything but blowing your load in your wife for a baby is a sin (even if I think you're an idiot). But for the most part no one cares if you get a beej, from your wife....but a dude plowing a dude is "unnatural". Neither lead to reproduction if you aren't aware. And what about couples who like to have sex, but make a conscious effort never to have children? Is that equally as "unnatural"?

I understand how someone labels it unnatural to an extent. In the sense that I do believe our bodies were designed by evolution to reproduce. But if you can't see that our sexual psyche lends itself to a wide range of perversions (not intending perversion to be "bad"), you are blind. We all desire things sexually that arent tied to making a baby. Some stretch so far as to being attracted to the same sex. I don't think it's genetic since obviously it would be bred out. But I don't understand how someone can't accept that someone developed in such a way that they arent attracted to the opposite sex. But instead are willing to stand fast that there's some grand conspiracy where people have gotten together and said "let's f**k each other to drive the other people wild......not because we like it, but because it'll just be a real hoot.
Posted by Chazzy McRamzee
Member since Jun 2014
2681 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:00 am to
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I'm trying to speak sense man but you just don't get it. There's nothing to agree with. It's like saying you don't agree with the sun or you don't agree with a tree. It just is what it is. For some folks, the most natural thing in the world is loving someone of the same sex.



Stop telling me I'm wrong and calling me names when you can't prove it.
Posted by Chazzy McRamzee
Member since Jun 2014
2681 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:01 am to
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Prove that it is a choice.


No. It's my opinion. I'm only calling out posters who are telling me it's a fact.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260611 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:01 am to
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That was my intent. I keep reading some of you guys talk about how others should respect your opposing views on gay people or bitching about the media and society in general demonizing those of you who don't feel like you have to accept that there are gay people in the world. I just don't understand it. What exactly are you


Who doesn't accept there,are gay people in the world? For many of you, tolerance is,a one way street.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260611 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:11 am to
Here's your problem dude, you want to be universally accepted the way you feel about yourself. Life don't work that way for me, it ain't gonna work that way for you. There is diversity of thought, get over it.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:14 am to
Yay Kim, you go girl.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260611 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:17 am to
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No. It's my opinion.


Which you're entitled to. I'm of the opinion it is for some, while others are born with a predisposition. I can't prove it either way however.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:18 am to
You know how staunch segregationalists "opinions" were completely wrong to their peers at the time and now look completely retarded to modern rational folk?

Yeah that's you and your boy Chazzee on gays.
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:18 am to
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KG6


That's one of the most thoughtful, well put things I've read in a long time man. I've been arguing with this dude for an hour but you explained it much better than I'm capable of at 5 am in the morning take care buddy
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:19 am to
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I have first hand experience when it comes to the difficulties a regular, red-blooded, sports-loving, cool American dude, who happens to be gay, goes through. So I get a little touchy about it.
Nobody cares about your feelings
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