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re: EBR Schools Proposed Schedule Changes - Parochial Schools to start at 7:15am!
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:50 am to Outboard
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:50 am to Outboard
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100% incorrect the busses for the Diocese comes from a statewide grant and is paid for from your property taxes. It was put in place over 40 years ago. The buses do not come out of your tuition it is the one thing that Diocese school students get for paying their property taxes! Go do research before you put out false information!
Fair enough - this doesn't change the overarching point of my comments.
1. Regardless of how the buses are paid for, Catholic schools kids don't pay different levels of tuition based on whether they ride the bus or not.
2. The Diocese shouldn't be dictated to by the EBRPSS simply over buses.
3. One employer (EBRPSS) should not in any way be able to dictate the working times and working terms for another employer's workers.
Sorry for putting our false information - you should read the entire post for context before honing in on one piece of it that really doesn't change the point of the post.
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:55 am to BeepNode
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They would expand aftercare to accommodate.
And you know this how, exactly?
So if a school that is currently set for 8-3, with aftercare until 5, is moved to 7-2... they will automatically extend aftercare from 2-5?
Do the people that work at the school get a say in this? In other words, if your boss (or in the case of the diocesan schools, someone else's boss) tells you that you are now going to work an extra hour each day, what would you say?
Some of these aftercare / daycare workers are only coming in for the after school hours. Do they need to now change their schedules completely just because EPRPSS can't get their crap together?
Changing the overall hours of the schools is a fine plan if it happens during the summer and people can plan for it.
There are a lot of domino effects of a change like this on the functioning of the city - one of them being buses being on the roads for longer periods in the morning and afternoon - that were seemingly not at all considered or contemplated by the Superintendent; fortunately the public and the school board could see this and trashed the plan before it grew legs.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:56 am to DrEdgeLSU
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2. The Diocese shouldn't be dictated to by the EBRPSS simply over buses. 3. One employer (EBRPSS) should not in any way be able to dictate the working times and working terms for another employer's workers.
EBR isn’t dictating anything. They’re providing a bus service. Why should Catholic schools dictate EBR buses?
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:01 am to lsupride87
I think my elementary/middle school started at 8:00. But you were supposed to be at school and lined up before 7:50. Dropped off my nephews at St. Jude earlier this year and carpool started at 7:20 and I think school still started at 8:00. But instead of having the kids lineup by class in the parking lot and wait for the bell (so dumb), they just head straight inside to their homeroom.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:01 am to BeepNode
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EBR isn’t dictating anything. They’re providing a bus service. Why should Catholic schools dictate EBR buses?
What?
In EBR's proposal, had it passed, parochial schools (Catholic) were going to be forced to change their start / end times.
What would you call it? Nicely asking? Politely inquiring? Hoping for acquiescence?
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:03 am to BeepNode
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I honestly don’t get why there was so much pushback to the idea of staggering school times. It was the only real solution put forth.
I hear what you are saying and but the ramifications are pretty severe and may result in the loss of even more bus drivers. The board is asking for more time to be spent on exhausting all other options. If nothing else is put forth in the 10 days then we may not have any other choice.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:04 am to DrEdgeLSU
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What? In EBR's proposal, had it passed, parochial schools (Catholic) were going to be forced to change their start / end times.
Not really. EBR runs the buses. The private schools are more than welcome to get their own buses.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 10:05 am
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:04 am to Papercutninja
The bus company needs to be dropped and replaced.
They know that there is a need for a lot of drivers and buses at approximately the same times every school day. Why did they and the school board not plan for this?
They know that there is a need for a lot of drivers and buses at approximately the same times every school day. Why did they and the school board not plan for this?
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 10:07 am
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:07 am to DrEdgeLSU
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There are a lot of domino effects of a change like this on the functioning of the city - one of them being buses being on the roads for longer periods in the morning and afternoon - that were seemingly not at all considered or contemplated by the Superintendent; fortunately the public and the school board could see this and trashed the plan before it grew legs.
Under no circumstance should a kid be waiting for a school bus at 6:00 in the morning. And that is what will be required for some people with a 7AM start time.
It’s still dark outside in the winter at 630. Not safe.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 10:12 am
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:08 am to Papercutninja
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not all students of the same age groups would be starting at the same time.
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Tier 1" schools could be on bus routes that start as early as 5:15 a.m.
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WBRZ has a crew at Thursday night's special school board meeting where the schedule is going to be presented.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:10 am to BeepNode
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I bash BR and EBR schools all the time but I honestly don’t get why there was so much pushback to the idea of staggering school times. It was the only real solution put forth.
Because it was a thoughtless proposal. It was designed to get everyone to school with a bus, but it didn't factor in any direct or indirect impacts. Namely - now the buses would run longer, bus drivers would be asked to run more routes, the latest bus routes would start running after 4pm.
All this does is extend the same concerns that the bus drivers were voicing. Only management would offer up longer hours under the same conditions to alleviate their shortsightedness about the bus driver problems.
The solution was hastily put together, was set to be implemented in 2 weeks, and wasn't actually going to solve the problem. Solutions that don't solve the problem shouldn't be entertained.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:11 am to BeepNode
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Not really. EBR runs the buses. The private schools are more than welcome to get their own buses.
Would EBR give the Diocese the money they've been granted (according to another poster) to subsidize use of their buses / drivers?
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:12 am to DrEdgeLSU
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Because it was a thoughtless proposal. It was designed to get everyone to school with a bus,
The big take away here is get your family out of Louisiana. Complaints are endless but Problems will never be solved.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 10:13 am
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:13 am to DrEdgeLSU
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Would EBR give the Diocese the money they've been granted (according to another poster) to subsidize use of their buses / drivers?
Did anyone ask? May be worth exploring.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:17 am to BeepNode
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Did anyone ask? May be worth exploring.
If I'm the superintendent of the Catholic Schools Office, and I am not, this is what I'm doing today. I'm working on severing this tie in an effort to disentangle the operations and fate of diocesan schools from those of EBRPSS.
When would people have had time to ask this, BeepNode? This "plan" was released at 4pm or so yesterday with a planned vote at a meeting yesterday evening.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:17 am to BeepNode
If that’s the case, then tax dollars paid by non-public school parents should not go towards school bus driver salaries or breakfast and lunches for public school kids. Let public school subsidize itself.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:20 am to Dixie2023
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f that’s the case, then tax dollars paid by non-public school parents should not go towards school bus driver salaries or breakfast and lunches for public school kids. Let public school subsidize itself.
Do it. All I’m seeing are bad faith equivalents to NIMBYs.
Meanwhile kids apparently aren’t getting picked up for school. That’s more bothersome to me than any other issue that has been raised thus far.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:21 am to Martini
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EHS doesn’t have their own busses only 1 used for sports. They sub to First Student and it is $2500.00 per year/per student.
Holy shite! Sounds like I need to start a privatized bus service then.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:23 am to Giantkiller
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Holy shite! Sounds like I need to start a privatized bus service then.
$2500 a year is “holy shite” ?
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:24 am to BeepNode
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Meanwhile kids apparently aren’t getting picked up for school. That’s more bothersome to me than any other issue that has been raised thus far.
And the solution presented aims at getting all kids to and from school but ignores literally every other consideration that families have to deal with:
- Working parents
- Kids that should not be home unsupervised
- Changing or extended times at daycare/aftercare
- Increasing time before school starts for younger kids, potentially at odds with parents' work schedules
- Timing of sports / extracurricular activities and the logistical issues that families deal with to manage them
- The bus drivers' availability based on other part-time work
- Probably many others
The problem is a shortage of bus drivers to accommodate the number of riders. This problem needs to be solved, and the solution presented was ridiculous.
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