re: Don't forget the Norcan and Plan B....

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80s and 90s had far more promiscuous sex in youth than today. Not arguable

Hard drug use was higher as well

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Now do overdoses, which is my point and the point behind Narcan.

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Harm reduction isn’t a bad thing. And you’re not handing your kid Narcan in a bubble, there’s likely a conversation about that. But make no mistake, handing your kid Narcan alone isn’t triggering drug use in kids.

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I don’t actually disagree. I think it depends on the raising up to that point and then the conversation surrounding Narcan. If you present it as some have said that hey here is your Narcan, because you’ll do drugs anyway, then yes it does encourage.

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0s and 90s had far more promiscuous sex in youth than today. Not arguable

Hard drug use was higher as well

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Kids today are downright prudish compared to 90/00s. It's not even close.

Look, I realize that you think your hardline, just say no, routine are all a growing boy needs.


And if it is...great. But let's say he's around people who's awful terrible parents didn't just scare them straight about drugs.

Let's say that maybe someone they don't even know didn't listen...and bought some laced pills from a shady guy.

He tells them they are happy time fun pills. Pills to help them do better on tests, whatever.

Then they take some and fall out, ODing.

Now, in your scenario, there's no Narcan available. Because it would only encourage drug use, right? (Despite no one intending to take opioids)

So a couple kids just die on the floor, blue lipped and cold, before the paramedics come and try unsuccessfully to revive them.

Families are destroyed. Lives are ruined.





In my scenario, there's Narcan in the back of the medicine cabinet, they shoot it up their noses, counteract the fentanyl, and save their lives.

Maybe they realize the danger and everyone swears off strange pills and powders, and goes on to have happy productive lives. They become fervently anti drug because it almost killed them. They become living, breathing, walking testaments to the dangers present.

Their families are so thankful they got another chance, in spite of a stupid decision.


Because what parent who's ever lost a child wouldn't give anything for just one more chance?

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Agreed, though I'd be interested to see the training these kids are getting with Narcan. Shocker, but injecting people that are not on drugs with Narcan is usually a good way to catch an assault charge.

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It’s pretty straight forward honestly (much like EpiPens). We did them awhile back and keep Narcan in our offices. Tons of easily accessible videos and there’s usually instructions on the package. It’s a nasal spray so you’re not injecting anything.

Fair enough… and just giving a kid Narcan and saying I know you’ll do drugs, is encouraging them to try. That’s reality as well.

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80s and 90s had far more promiscuous sex in youth than today. Not arguable

Hard drug use was higher as well

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What you didn't have was the possibility of your drugs being tainted with fentanyl.

When my daughter went to Arky last year we seriously considered the Narcan. Specifically for accidental exposure. Rent is some scary shite.

The issue with Narcan is it’s not really stable and doesn’t have a long shelf life, so to speak.

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Having Narcan will just reinforce that doing the drugs is okay in the kids’ minds. Good luck with that.

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When I left for college, my dad gave me some pepper spray to carry in my purse. That doesn’t mean that he thought I should go walking down dark alleys at night. And besides, you could just tell your kid that the Narcan is there in case a friend ever needs it. Most people don’t administer it to themselves. By the time it’s apparent Narcan is needed, the drug user is too far gone to save himself. A friend or first responder almost always administers the Narcan.