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re: does legalization increase mj usage
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:25 am to BurningHeart
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:25 am to BurningHeart
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Not as much as alcohol, but if you're consuming MJ you likely won't be having a cigarette around the same time.
Both are used for anxiety.
yeah, that's not really true.
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Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:29 am to eScott
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Employers can still maintain a drug free work place, so a lot of people aren't going to just start smoking.
It would increase my use since I havent smoked in 20 years.
If its legal Im smoking. Employers cant tell me I cant have a beer while Im at home, they damn sure cant tell me I cant smoke a bowl while at home either if its legal.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:30 am to upgrayedd
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yeah, that's not really true.
You're gonna need to be more specific if you expect meaningful discussion.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:33 am to RabidTiger
OPs post really gives you a lot to think about
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:54 am to BurningHeart
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You're gonna need to be more specific if you expect meaningful discussion.
Cigarettes and mj are not in direct competition like mj and alcohol are.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:56 am to L1C4
The only effect it would have on me is that I would get to choose the type of Bud myself instead of just getting the type of Bud he has.
Right now the Bud type is "Gorilla Crack".
I may have chosen it anyway.
Right now the Bud type is "Gorilla Crack".
I may have chosen it anyway.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:57 am to saintsfan1977
private companies can tell you that they don't want it in your system while on the clock. they are well within their rights to do so.
Similarly, if I wanted to chug 30 beers and pass out on Friday night, than I don't think my employee could care less as long as none of it were to register on a test come Monday morning.
I'm 100% for drug and alcohol testing in the work place.
Similarly, if I wanted to chug 30 beers and pass out on Friday night, than I don't think my employee could care less as long as none of it were to register on a test come Monday morning.
I'm 100% for drug and alcohol testing in the work place.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:57 am to L1C4
Who cares if it is legal?
Posted on 9/15/18 at 11:59 am to BurningHeart
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The alcohol and tobacco lobby is one of the biggest roadblocks to MJ legalization.
Which is hilarious if you think about it.
Of the 3, marijuana is BY FAR the safest of those options.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 12:03 pm to eScott
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Employers can still maintain a drug free work place, so a lot of people aren't going to just start smoking.
Yeah non progressive employers. More than likely your employees would do more dumb shite to embarrass your company while drinking than smoking pot. Of course I’m talking about after work hours scenarios.
This post was edited on 9/15/18 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 9/15/18 at 12:05 pm to memphis tiger
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Who cares if it is legal?
True dat.I've lived 57 years under Marijuana Prohibition.Same dealer for 39 years.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 12:05 pm to shotcaller1
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private companies can tell you that they don't want it in your system while on the clock. they are well within their rights to do so.
If it affects your ability at work...
But the argument with MJ testing is that the effects only last a few hours, but the metabolites can last weeks.
It's like saying that even though you drank on a Friday night and some of that alcohol converted to sugar and then fat... on Monday you still have that fat in your system and can be fired.
The current MJ testing is ridiculous, especially the very low 50 ng/dl threshold they use.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 12:07 pm to memphis tiger
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Which is hilarious if you think about it.
Of the 3, marijuana is BY FAR the safest of those options.
Yes. And there are some people that are so brainwashed that they actually argue for the government dictating what they can consume.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 12:09 pm to BruceJender
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If MJ were to become federally legal, could employers still not hire on the basis of a failed drug test
I would assume so.
Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean you can show up to work high.
Alcohol is legal but if show up for an interview or drug test drunk, you will be fired or not hired at all.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 12:19 pm to BruceJender
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If MJ were to become federally legal, could employers still not hire on the basis of a failed drug test? Seems like you couldn’t penalize a potential candidate for doing something that is completely legal, but I do know it is hard to prove when you actually smoked/ate it
Sure they can. Certain test give a better idea of recency, like the hair test. Ultimately, MJ is on the DOT panel primarily because of a railway accident that killed 16 people and injured 175 in 1987. Alcohol is also tested for and is legal. Prescription opioids for which you have a prescription will still get you barred from a job site and possibly get you fired if you have reported that you have the script.
It’s not supposed to be about legality but about workplace/public safety.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 12:29 pm to shotcaller1
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private companies can tell you that they don't want it in your system while on the clock. they are well within their rights to do so.
There is no test that can determine if a person is high on MJ. The current test is for metabolites that can stay in the body for weeks after using MJ. A MJ high lasts 4-6 hours.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 12:40 pm to L1C4
Pot is ridiculously easy to get already. Usage is not going to increase by any great degree.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 12:43 pm to eScott
If a work place is "drug free" then alcohol consumption of any kind should also be prohibited.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 12:52 pm to shotcaller1
The problem, the GIANT problem is that testing for pot only shows metabolites. YOU CANNOT GET HIGH ON METABOLITES. Active THC is only in your system for 3-5 hours. Metabolites stay in your system for 4-6 weeks.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 12:55 pm to TGFN57
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And there are some people that are so brainwashed that they actually argue for the government dictating what they can consume.
This is ignorant, the government doesn't dictate what you can consume. The people elect representatives to vote on their behalf.
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If a work place is "drug free" then alcohol consumption of any kind should also be prohibited
Every random drug test I've taken included alcohol. We've had customers request drug testing also before we started a project.
People who are thinking their employer won't have the right to not hire drug users, are in for a rude awakening.
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