re: Does anyone still believe Steven Avery (M.A.M) is innocent?

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I have no clue how anyone could feel near certain either way just from watching the documentaries. But I think most people overrate their ability to handle uncertainty, so I'm sure we will get a ton of black and white answers.

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100% correct

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If there is no doubt he did it, then you can't really say he shouldn't be convicted because you're beyond the realm of reasonable doubt at that point.

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Definitely was a gripping documentary. As mentioned we didn't hear or see all that was presented to jury. In saying that I personally don't think there was enough evidence. Good documentary for sure.

Yes

no he did it

He killed that woman.

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He did it, the nephew helped.

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If I took a 5 yr old with me to a murder and made him do things, should the 5 yr old go to prison as well? Bc that's exactly the same concept. What they did to convict that kid was criminal and they should all be in prison for it.

EtA: Brendan Dassey will be released on Friday. Scumbag investigators should be put in prison to finish out his original sentence. They knew what they were doing and didn't care. That is different than operating in good faith of the law.

I think there's a strong possibility he's guilty. I also think he didn't get a fair investigation nor trial and the trial needed to be held elsewhere.

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Dassey was innocent and that whole scenario was vile. He was a pawn to get Avery convicted.

Is there a follow up documentary I've missed presenting the other side to MAM? Would like to see it if yes

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I think there's a strong possibility he's guilty. I also think he didn't get a fair investigation nor trial and the trial needed to be held elsewhere

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This is what I'm thinking as well. I'm leaning about 90% guilty and 10% innocent, with a few little things contributing to that 10%.

- Cell tower pings show TH's cell phone leaving the Avery property after the supposed time of the murder

- The bones had been moved

- No other suspects were EVER seriously considered; in fact the only people investigated were part of the Avery and Dassey family

- Inconsistencies regarding the whereabouts of the Rav-4 in the days leading up to and after the supposed murder took place

- Blood samples only being tested once, and not using the "latest and greatest" tests. His new lady attorney believes that there are traces of preservatives present in the blood samples taken from the vehicle, suggesting the vial blood was used

- The mysteries surrounding the key; why wasn't it found during the numerous sweeps of the bedroom before then? Why did the ONE detective that was supposed to be barred from the property and the investigation find it? Is it truly a "spare" key?

- The fact that this all happened right before Avery's big payout from being improperly convicted and the ensuing media storm that would've followed it

- The entire Brendan Dassey case, from the investigators forcing his "confession" to the now-disbarred lawyer that allowed him to be questioned without any kind of representation, to convicting a mentally handicapped kid with almost zero evidence other than clearly made up details by said kid

Ultimately, I think the evidence pointing TO Avery far outweighs any of the above, but there's still so many questions that the prosecutors left unanswered and uninvestigated that it's hard to say without a doubt that he should've been convicted. I'm also of the opinion that guilty or not, the investigators most likely planted evidence or helped the investigation along in ways that they shouldn't have.

While in prison Steven Avery sketched, in detail, a torture chamber he said in his own words was to be used on women when he got out. Later a woman's body, who he called multiple times to come to his house the day she disappeared, was found burned and multilated on his property. Probably all just a big coincidence though