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re: Does anyone know anything about this BR murder case from 1979? Details?

Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:52 am to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29907 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:52 am to
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Thank God he has the opportunity to be free now, right Josh?


I don’t have an opinion on whether this case in particular should have been commuted or parole granted, as I know very little about it. As a categorical, I think life with the opportunity for parole after a set number of years should be the most severe sentence available regardless of crime, but that’s not the system we currently live in, so my preference on that categorical isn’t particularly relevant.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48599 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:53 am to
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I don’t have an opinion on whether this case in particular should have been commuted or parole granted, as I know very little about it. As a categorical, I think life with the opportunity for parole after a set number of years should be the most severe sentence available regardless of crime, but that’s not the system we currently live in, so my preference on that categorical isn’t particularly relevant.




This bullshite answer right here is why we hate lawyers.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25398 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:10 am to
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Familieskeeper


There is something I’d like to know. Why you’re keeping multiple families stashed somewhere?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29907 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:40 pm to
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This bullshite answer right here is why we hate lawyers.


I know. You’d all much rather shoot off at the mouth not having the faintest idea what you’re talking about, and it makes you uncomfortable when someone says that they won’t make a value judgment on something without having more information

Every article I’ve read hand waves at the fact that he’s done a lot while in DOC to show rehabilitation without giving any detail. I’ve stated definitively that I believe everyone, regardless of crime committed, should have the opportunity to apply for parole at some point. Whether they are granted parole would, obviously, be utterly case by case. Beyond that, my apologies for not taking the time to go research decades of history regarding a case I have zero personal or professional interest in
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15579 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:53 pm to
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I believe everyone, regardless of crime committed, should have the opportunity to apply for parole at some point.


Including school shooters?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29907 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:39 pm to
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Including school shooters?


Yes. But as a point of clarification, the opportunity to apply for parole != having that application for parole granted. I absolutely believe that there would be people whose crimes balanced against their record of behavior, both positive and negative, while incarcerated should result in their remaining in prison for their entire lives, being denied parole when they apply for it. But I still think everyone should be able to apply, with reasonable conditions set for length of time before first application, length of time between applications, etc.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15579 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:45 pm to
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Yes. But as a point of clarification, the opportunity to apply for parole != having that application for parole granted. I absolutely believe that there would be people whose crimes balanced against their record of behavior, both positive and negative, while incarcerated should result in their remaining in prison for their entire lives, being denied parole when they apply for it. But I still think everyone should be able to apply, with reasonable conditions set for length of time before first application, length of time between applications, etc.


We will have to agree to disagree.

This murderer, just like a mass shooter, should not have a chance at parole nor should the tax payers pay to keep them alive for the rest of their lives or even the 15-20 years while the appeal process goes on. Justice should be much more swift and cost effective.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29907 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:55 pm to
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We will have to agree to disagree.

Understood. Wasn’t trying to convince anyone
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This murderer, just like a mass shooter, should not have a chance at parole nor should the tax payers pay to keep them alive for the rest of their lives or even the 15-20 years while the appeal process goes on. Justice should be much more swift and cost effective.

In your opinion, what should be the length of time that should serve as the arbitrary cutoff for appeals, and in this paradigm, should the burden of proof at trial remain “beyond a reasonable doubt”?
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19915 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 2:23 pm to
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Ranatza read the restrictions of Chenevert’s parole, which included the stipulation that the 64-year-old leave Louisiana and not return without express permission from a parole officer.


How about you guys keep your trash in Louisiana or in prison instead of making the rest of us keep an eye out for him? This parole board should be drug out in the street for this type of stupidity.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102283 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 7:03 pm to
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Chateau Dijon was considered upscale back then.





Any crib named after a kind of mustard has got to be high class.
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