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re: Do you have a concealed & carry license?
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:39 am to MightyYat
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:39 am to MightyYat
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I'm not really sure what's funny.
You talking like a redneck by using a double negative was funny. Lighten up, Francis.
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The guy was shooting and moving around a dark theater while people were running around. That's asking an AWFUL lot of someone with a CC permit. You're acting like having that permit makes one an expert marksman. The best thing to do in that type of situation is get the frick down and out as fast as possible.
Why don't you go back and read some of my posts. I don't feel like explaining this again.
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The best thing to do in that type of situation is get the frick down and out as fast as possible.
Those are two completely different tactics.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 10:41 am
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:42 am to TDsngumbo
Not required in Arizona 
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:42 am to LesMiles BFF
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Let's not gloss over this statement.
Why? It's a fair statement. He said "can be."
The problem is that some dumb people carry. Some really smart people carry. I can't control that.
But, if you're in a crowded, confined space with some ISIS wannabe or someone else intent on trying to kill everyone there, is the person carrying a weapon to simply cower and hope for the best while the shooter mows down everyone, or is it appropriate to risk hitting innocents, who may be dead shortly anyway, in order to try and neutralize an ongoing threat.
If you think there is a clear answer to that question, you're being obstinate because you simply dislike people who like guns. It's a complicated question of circumstance, skill and ethics that nobody can give a great answer on in a bubble.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:44 am to Pettifogger
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But, if you're in a crowded, confined space with some ISIS wannabe or someone else intent on trying to kill everyone there, is the person carrying a weapon to simply cower and hope for the best while the shooter mows down everyone, or is it appropriate to risk hitting innocents, who may be dead shortly anyway, in order to try and neutralize an ongoing threat.
If you think there is a clear answer to that question, you're being obstinate because you simply dislike people who like guns. It's a complicated question of circumstance, skill and ethics that nobody can give a great answer on in a bubble.
Good explanation.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:51 am to LesMiles BFF
Why is it scary? It's great because pretty much everywhere you go people are carrying concealed so you don't have to worry about people acting up. shite...you can even carry concealed in a bar with no license. 
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:52 am to TDsngumbo
I wouldn't mind getting one, but the whole not drinking thing would be an issue for me
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:55 am to lsu480
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Why is it scary? It's great because pretty much everywhere you go people are carrying concealed so you don't have to worry about people acting up. shite...you can even carry concealed in a bar with no license
You bring up a great point. There's a far less chance some idiot will go being stupid when they know that there's a lot of people all around him equipped and ready to respond with deadly force to whatever he's got on his mind.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:56 am to oleyeller
Same here, I have a conceal carry permit and take it everywhere including when we go to the movies
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:56 am to Darth_Vader
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You bring up a great point. There's a far less chance some idiot will go being stupid when they know that there's a lot of people all around him equipped and ready to respond with deadly force to whatever he's got on his mind.
I don't know. The more that comes out about this guy the more it looks like he's going to turnout to be a moonbat.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:59 am to Darth_Vader
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You bring up a great point. There's a far less chance some idiot will go being stupid when they know that there's a lot of people all around him equipped and ready to respond with deadly force to whatever he's got on his mind
That also depends. This guy was planning on dying anyway so he probably DGAF who was carrying around him.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:01 am to upgrayedd
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That also depends. This guy was planning on dying anyway so he probably DGAF who was carrying around him.
And in this instance he'd get off one, maybe two shots before someone puts him down. But if he's the only guy there with a gun, he will go on shooting until he decides he's done or he runs out of ammo.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:03 am to Darth_Vader
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And in this instance he'd get off one, maybe two shots before someone puts him down.
He could get off a hell of a lot more than that.
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But if he's the only guy there with a gun, he will go on shooting until he decides he's done or he runs out of ammo.
True.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:03 am to Shexter
I'm going to one on Saturday in Metairie. Shoots club still has openings I believe
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:05 am to Darth_Vader
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And in this instance he'd get off one, maybe two shots before someone puts him down. But if he's the only guy there with a gun, he will go on shooting until he decides he's done or he runs out of ammo.
Negative in this case. He was in the last row of the theater and starting shooting from behind when the lights went down. He could've emptied the clip even if 20 people in that room had guns on them. It would've taken Special Ops type skills to take him out. Also, he didn't plan to die last night. He parked his car by the exit, changed it's plates and had wigs and disguises. The dude wasn't planning on last night being his last.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 11:08 am
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:07 am to upgrayedd
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And in this instance he'd get off one, maybe two shots before someone puts him down.
He could get off a hell of a lot more than that.
The situation we were talking about in my post was a guy going into somewhere that has a lot of people he knows are armed like what 480 was talking about in his post.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:07 am to Bmath
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While these things are horrible, it's best to try and keep a level head. Knee jerk reactions don't help anyone.
This is it. I have thought about getting a CCL for a long time, and finally I came to the conclusion that I, who have no training or experience shooting under stressful circumstances, just don't need one. Would probably do more harm than good.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:08 am to Darth_Vader
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The situation we were talking about in my post was a guy going into somewhere that has a lot of people he knows are armed like what 480 was talking about in his post.
Ahhhh, then disregard my soapbox posts.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:09 am to Darth_Vader
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The situation we were talking about in my post was a guy going into somewhere that has a lot of people he knows are armed like what 480 was talking about in his post.
still
even if the entire room is armed, unless they are on edge, a shooter will still get off more than 1 or 2 shots before someone else can take him down
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:10 am to terd ferguson
quote:yes for open carry that is part of the law. But im talking concealed. different set of rules. I guess it is how you interpret the rule.
I don't think so. I think they can just choose to prohibit carry. I know I've talked to people that open carry and been told that they had been asked to go put their firearm in their vehicle and they could return to the store. I'm guessing at that point at a minimum they could get you for trespassing after being asked to leave.
Like how it is against the law to concealed carry at a parade. What if the parade goes down your street and you are standing on your private property. It is one of those things that would have to have an unfortunate incident happen for the law to be argued.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:11 am to TDsngumbo
Nope....Don't need one. Have plenty of guns and ammo. Never felt the need to carry concealed and I've been in bad areas of chicago, stl, New Orleans.
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