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re: Do You Believe In Demons?

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Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:59 am to
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Eh, I'm not reading this whole thread. The quote appeared slightly out of context.
It's like 6 posts after.
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NDT, while an atheist, has usually appeared uninterested in the debate about the existence of God. He'll argue points where some religious people discount science, but overall his take seems reasonable.
Agreed.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 12:00 pm
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:59 am to
Your beliefs are supported by the Bible. The story of creation in the Bible talks of what occurred in days, but what exactly are "days"? We don't know what of the Old Testament are literal accounts, what are parables, and what were originally Hebrew poems. The Bible is most definitely NOT a science or history book. The Bible is about The Who, not The How.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Your beliefs are supported by the Bible.
No they are not. Some? Maybe. But I don't think there is a omnipotent being up there controlling all of it.
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The Bible is most definitely NOT a science or history book.
Everything in the Bible isn't true? I didn't think you could pick and choose from the Bible.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:02 pm to
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The Bible is about The Who, not The How.


Hmmm, that's weird, because for over a thousand years it was very much about the how. What's changed?



Oh yeah, society created a new schema for the Bible to fit in because it's the only way to reconcile it with the beliefs of the time.
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:04 pm to
There were a lot more things than the Bible that were misunderstood 1500 years ago. What's your point?
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Posted by beejon
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:04 pm to
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It could be "it just is" just as easily as there needing to be a first cause. In fact "it just is" is a simpler conclusion and probably more reliable. But no one knows.


Nope, doesn't work. If it 'is', it requires a cause....except for the first cause.
Posted by ctiger69
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:05 pm to
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Rickety Cricket


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I'm not closed minded.



This is the funniest thing I have read the last six months.



Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:05 pm to
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Everything in the Bible isn't true? I didn't think you could pick and choose from the Bible.


I'm not picking and choosing.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:05 pm to
So some of the stuff in the Bible is just plain ole made up?
Posted by beejon
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:05 pm to
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Big bang. What caused the big bang? No idea. Over time, living beings were formed. How? No idea. Over time, animals (humans included) evolved. When we die, that's it. Darkness. Just like every other animal that has ever died on this planet. I don't think human beings are special in that we go to a special place after death while every single other living creature just dies and that's it.



Something cause the big bang. Which lies outside natural laws.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:06 pm to
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I'm not picking and choosing.
Do you believe every single thing in the Bible?
Posted by TK421
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:06 pm to
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Everything in the Bible isn't true? I didn't think you could pick and choose from the Bible


It depends somewhat on the definition of "truth" in this instance.

For example, many scholars outright discredit the first 12 chapters of Genesis as being Jewish oral traditions of the creation of the world. There may be philosophical truths in these stories, but they are not "facts" in the way we view them today.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:06 pm to
No, there are many parables to help people 2000 years ago understand who God is and how he works in your life.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Something cause the big bang. Which lies outside natural laws.
Which some say is God, and others, like myself, say we don't know.
Posted by beejon
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Your first cause would need to be an effect without a cause.


No,thus the term "first cause".
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Do you believe every single thing in the Bible?


I believe everything in the Bible has a purpose.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:07 pm to
Ok. I didn't think you could choose to believe some stuff and not others.
Posted by beejon
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Which some say is God, and others, like myself, say we don't know.


But it has to be a 'something'.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:08 pm to
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something
Sure, something caused it.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:08 pm to
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Ok. I didn't think you could choose to believe some stuff and not others.


Whatever, there's no point in this. You just want to ridicule and not listen.
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