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re: Do You Agree Corporal Punishment (Spanking) Is Barbaric When You Think About It?

Posted on 1/9/16 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 12:50 pm to
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Don't cloud their thinking with facts, man.

Once again, you, sir, have supplied nothing to support your side but references to researches posted on the internet. I'll post the support for my side that is now posted on the internet. 19 up votes for the OP's #1 post. 239 down votes against. I'll bet many of the up votes are using their own childhood as examples.
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 1:26 pm to
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TJGator1215

I looked at your links . A Ph.D at Notre Dame. Check out her bio. Also, check out the comments section. University of New Hampshire. An op-ed by someone hiding behind "the Doctor". Please!! You have done more than tangerine I suppose but looking inside the links finds references to generic support for their point. There is nothing but what appears to be opinions from a Dr. in a liberal college and op-ed from un-named people citing no specific "research".

Skeptical? Yes, I am. Liberals taught me to be many years ago. They could prove their point when it simply did not match the real world. Then a learned centrist taught me to look into the details of "researches". Liberals are famous with overwhelming another with "researches" that cannot stand up to scrutiny. I don't see credibility here. They are no better than the chard on a "Good Hard Spanking". What da hell does that even mean!??!
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 1:45 pm to
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One can always tell when they have won these discussions. The other side will run out of points and stoop to name calling.


the post I replied to:

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17 mins of some pansy arse libs opinions on child rearing.... Hard fricking pass



exactly what you described

So you really don't see the difference between who started it. You insulted an entire thread because you didn't like what some guy said Really? Did you notice how I responded to you calling me a dumbass? Oh well! I win another one!!
Posted by CorkSoaker
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 1:53 pm to
How old are your kids?
Posted by kilo1234
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:42 pm to
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Spare the rod is not in the fricking bible. The bible also condones slavery and stoning. Gtfo.



Proverbs 13:24, dipshit. Now go get your shine box.
Posted by Arkla Missy
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by sullivanct19a
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 6:34 pm to
Poncho still leads for Dumbest of 2016 but Hashslinger or whatever his name is has come on strong lately.
Posted by TheIndulger
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 6:36 pm to
People think spanking helps, but I've known many well to do people who were not beat as a child.

I'll put it this way, you'd be hard pressed to find trailer trash who don't believe in spanking their kids.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 6:38 pm to
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19 up votes for the OP's #1 post. 239 down votes against


Well, damn, I guess that settles it. Continue hitting your children.
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 6:42 pm to
Exactly. And they refuse to give any reasoning to why they see spanking as a superior form of discipline

From my experience, the kids whose parents who utilize negative reinforcement/punishment just learn to hide shite so they don't get caught. As opposed to children who are purposefully taught to want to be a good person
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 8:36 pm to
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Well, damn, I guess that settles it. Continue hitting your children.

My research (as good as anything you liberals can provide) indicates that this should settle it.
Posted by Redbone
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 8:57 pm to
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From my LIMITED experience,..

FIFY.

Please explain how a couple in their twenties faced with a less than perfect child are supposed to know all of these alternate methods of steering a child's behavior. Rich people, poor trailer trash, single parents, and whatever you can come up with, how do they know all of these pie in the sky little tricks?

It's more than OP's votes. Those same voters have provided explanations in their posts. Just read all that say the same thing as I, Dad used it on me. It did have the desired effect. I spanked my boys on rare occasions and achieved the desired outcome. They testify to this and believe in it enough to use it on their kids. I didn't hide very much as did anyone that I know. The chance of getting caught wasn't worth it.

Of course some of you have this idea within your heads that all we do is beat our kids into submission. "Spanking" in the OP title is only used when all else fails. What would have done to your son if everything you had in your bag of tricks failed?
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As opposed to children who are purposefully taught to want to be a good person

If a person is purposefully taught that being a bad person can have painful results doesn't that teach them to want to be a good person?
Posted by bayoumuscle21
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 8:58 pm to
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Got into an argument with my neighbor about this. He tries to be "old school" on everything and acts like things were always better back in the "good ol' days" which is before he even was born, so he's an idiot off the bat, but I digress...

Think abut it; who hits a child when they don't respond just the way the parent expects?

I don't see any difference in that and the way ISIS treats their enemies; only a barbaric loser will hit or kick a human/animal when it doesn't do what they want.

I know a lot of people were spanked when they were younger, but have we finally realized the absolute stone-age barbarism in that?

LOL if you spank your kids; you're taking your frustration out on them probably because you're poor.




Here we go. Well I was spanked a ton as a kid, and I'm very thankful now that I'm older.

When you're 5 and outside playing, you don't cross the street to grab the ball because you have the logic to know you can get hit by a car, you don't cross the street bc mom or dad will give you a spanking and said never cross the street (yes they were outside) . The logic comes a little later in life, but let me guess, you were a boy genius.

I don't understand why people are so against a spanking, you're not really hurting the kid physically and at the same time teaching them a lesson.

Lots of kids in jail probably weren't spanked enough.
Posted by Redbone
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:10 pm to
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People think spanking helps, but I've known many well to do people who were not beat as a child.

What da hell are you even saying? If a child isn't beat they will become well to do. You referred to "spanking" in the beginning of your sentence but referred to "beat" at the end. Too entirely different things.
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I'll put it this way, you'd be hard pressed to find trailer trash who don't believe in spanking their kids.

Again, what's your point? Do you have any proof of this claim or is it just another claim pulled out of your arse to get into the discussion.

I know people of all income levels that use spanking in their bag of tricks. My 68 years of experience (research?) indicates the worst kids come from wealthy families that did not spank them.

One of them sits in a Mexican jail fighting extradition last I heard.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:11 pm to
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Redbone


You win. Good post.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:31 pm to
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My 68 years of experience (research?) indicates the worst kids come from wealthy families that did not spank them.

One of them sits in a Mexican jail fighting extradition last I heard.
I must be one of the worst then

And do you have a link that the affluenza kid wasn't spanked? Or are you just pulling that out of your arse?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:32 pm to
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Well, damn, I guess that settles it. Continue hitting your children.

My research (as good as anything you liberals can provide) indicates that this should settle it.
if you don't agree with something, dismiss it as "liberal." Good stuff
Posted by Mullet Flap
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Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:34 pm to
But mah mamma n daddy dun would pull out the biggest dogwood branch and beat the tar out my hide and I grew up to be a respectful gentlemun


Spanking just teaches your kids that hitting will get the kid what he wants and is acceptable.
Posted by Mullet Flap
Lysdexia
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:37 pm to
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When my dog screws up, I sit him down and thoroughly explain what he did wrong and how it makes me feel. I don't think he respects me.


Because a human child and a dog have close to the same mental capacity
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