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Sure it's anecdotal, and it may not happen to many, but those are some life changing repercussions for a false accusation. It's not as easy as just "stay away from women unless asked." These girls went beyond asking for attention, and I was still the bad guy.

I get that, but if someone is going to make up an accusation, that can happen to anyone. Glad it worked out okay in your case.

I said it in another thread, but the biggest driver of harassment/assault is whether or not it was wanted. If you're going to cross the line with someone, you better be damn sure you understand the situation well. That's been advice to live by well before #metoo came up.

The part I find comical is this melt on the OT that the workplace is changing drastically - it isn't. If you were harassing women before #metoo, you're more likely to get in trouble for it now, but if you were carrying on like normal and weren't crossing the line, you won't have any issues.

Standing in someone's personal space won't get you fired for harassment, but if he/she asks you to step back and/or you're making lewd comments and consistently breaching their personal space, you're going to have a problem, and rightfully so.

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Posted by wadewilson

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Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:32 pm to rintintin

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Coming from someone who has been accused of date rape for simply talking to a girl at a bar, buying her drink, then leaving, don't assume it's that simple.

I'm not single, but even if I was, I wouldn't buy a girl a drink. I probably wouldn't talk to one unless I had someone with me that I knew.

It's not worth the risk.

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Posted by rintintin

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Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:42 pm to slackster

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get that, but if someone is going to make up an accusation, that can happen to anyone.

I don't get what you're conveying here. That's kind of my point, it can happen to anyone and maybe it's not going overboard to be extra careful.

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said it in another thread, but the biggest driver of harassment/assault is whether or not it was wanted. If you're going to cross the line with someone, you better be damn sure you understand the situation well. That's been advice to live by well before #metoo came up.

I agree, but that can be a very tricky situation. Girls can get awfully emotional and vindictive. All it takes is her to not like you anymore, or you do something to hurt her feelings, then all of a sudden she sees it as assault.

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The part I find comical is this melt on the OT that the workplace is changing drastically - it isn't. If you were harassing women before #metoo, you're more likely to get in trouble for it now, but if you were carrying on like normal and weren't crossing the line, you won't have any issues.

Standing in someone's personal space won't get you fired for harassment, but if he/she asks you to step back and/or you're making lewd comments and consistently breaching their personal space, you're going to have a problem, and rightfully so.

I agree it's hyperbole. But as I said above, given the benefit of the doubt that most women get in these situations , and given the life changing repercussions, is it really going overboard to be extra careful?

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Posted by Mo Jeaux

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Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:43 pm to slackster