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re: Do auto accident lawyers on TV commercials represent guilty parties?
Posted on 10/27/17 at 11:17 am to Elleshoe
Posted on 10/27/17 at 11:17 am to Elleshoe
I should have clarified. The abuse the defense guys talk about are the parking lot bump, $4,000 settlement instead of defending it claims. I have a friend who does pre-lit at a mill and I know what his caseload is and what his average settlement is.
Loser pays won’t address the meritorious claims, and it won’t affect the parking lot bumps because liability is usually clear in those.
Loser pays won’t address the meritorious claims, and it won’t affect the parking lot bumps because liability is usually clear in those.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 11:18 am to Bunk Moreland
Ours is called an offer of judgment
Posted on 10/27/17 at 11:26 am to boosiebadazz
Which firm? And what’s the average fee? Now I’m interested
Posted on 10/27/17 at 11:28 am to Elleshoe
I’m going to keep some anynomity for both he and I, but it’s a big billboard firm and it’s like $2,500 with 200 files.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 11:41 am to boosiebadazz
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$2,500 with 200 files
I worked for a mill in a rural parish, but not on the mill side of the firm. The boss wanted ~ 5 files opened and ~ 5 files closed per week, per auto litigator, although almost all were "partners" (profit sharing).
That was about right for averages and caseloads 15 years ago. I would have thought with city courts getting more jurisdiction and the average policy limits creeping up, that it would be closer to a $4k or $5k average today, and more in places like New Orleans, BR, Shreveport and Laffy.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 11:43 am to ksayetiger
Every case makes them money so that they can have shitty commercials, dumb catch phrases/jingles, and some sort of facial cosmetic surgery to be more appealing.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:01 pm to Elleshoe
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Which firm? And what’s the average fee? Now I’m interested
I don't have LA relevant information but since you are curious I will add my experience.
I was the managing partner of the litigation department that also handled all the medmal and products liability for a large multi-state PI firm. I wouldn't call it a mill since we had a in-house lit department but the other side of the firm worked similar to a mill. The partners on that side ran with a case load of about 700, ~400 would be auto, ~200 WC and ~100 SSD. The average settlement for auto PI claims was just over $8k (this did not include any settlements over 50,000 since we treated them as a separate category). Each partner had two staff attorneys, 3 paralegals, a secretary and 2-3 clerks. Average time from signing to disbursement for a PI claim was around 6 months.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:54 pm to lammo
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Oh, and I guess defense lawyers, insurance companies, and big business don't contribute to judges' campaigns. You are an idiot if you don't know that. Or a liar If you do.
Some defense lawyers do, but not nearly as much as PI lawyers. You don't get the same benefit.
I've never seen an insurance company contribute to a judicial campaign. Maybe in a Supreme court race. Same for Big Business. They just don't get involved in District Court races, and barely in Appeals court races. Just lawyers and family.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:19 pm to Obtuse1
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The partners on that side ran with a case load of about 700, ~400 would be auto, ~200 WC and ~100 SSD.
I don’t believe you. That many cases, even between 3 attorneys is borderline unmanageable
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:33 pm to Elleshoe
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I don’t believe you. That many cases, even between 3 attorneys is borderline unmanageable
I watched it for 15 years.
The first key is screening and not taking crap cases. Next is a system designed around efficiency, it was the most efficient business I have ever been inside of. Possibly the most important factor is having staff that is intelligent, dedicated and paid very well. Many of the paralegals had been claims adjusters that they poached from the insurance companies. Keep in mind these attorneys had zero time tied up in litigation, my team handled all of that including WC and SDD hearings in front of ALJs and appeals work. When you take out the 10% of cases that take 90% of your time it isn't hard to move files.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:47 pm to Obtuse1
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The first key is screening and not taking crap cases. Next is a system designed around efficiency, it was the most efficient business I have ever been inside of. Possibly the most important factor is having staff that is intelligent, dedicated and paid very well. Many of the paralegals had been claims adjusters that they poached from the insurance companies. Keep in mind these attorneys had zero time tied up in litigation, my team handled all of that including WC and SDD hearings in front of ALJs and appeals work. When you take out the 10% of cases that take 90% of your time it isn't hard to move files.
Not gonna lie here... this gave me a raging fricking cock boner
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:58 pm to Elleshoe
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I don’t believe you. That many cases, even between 3 attorneys is borderline unmanageable
No - that's pretty standard. 200 to 250 files per attorney in a high volume law firm is my experience as well.
It's lower on the defense side, for sure, because there are just fewer small files. Let's take a stereotypical smallish defense firm - 12 to 15 lawyers, roughly a third "partners" of all stripes, with 1 or 2 "boss" bosses. Each incoming file (mostly auto, but stuff like products liability and CGL stuff comes in from the same insurance clients) is assigned to a partner and an associate. Since an associate does 75% or more of the pretrial work (maybe 95% in some places), each associate is going to have 80 to 100 (ranges vary, but I'll stand by that) files that he is primary on. A partner may have 300 active files at various stages of development, closer to 250 I would think would be normal. (ETA: Now that I hash that out - 200 to 250 is probably right on both sides of the aisle.)
I'm sure there are extremes at both ranges, but for routine litigation that many firms are engaging in, I'll bet my numbers are close.
ETA: Keep in mind that in a plaintiff firm, the staff does an extraordinary amount of work in most places. The attorney, because of caseload, only does "attorney only" stuff, signing pleadings, depositions, court appearances, mediation, etc. A bunch of back and forth communication is automatically done by a good staff working the case list and calendar aggressively.
On the defense side, that isn't so dramatic, because the hourly rate for paralegals is lower and the insurance companies don't want to pay for sub-paralegal staff time at all. "That's your overhead, not ours."
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 2:02 pm
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