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re: D.L. Hughley's mouth just wrote a check that Terry Crews is looking to cash.

Posted on 1/27/19 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 9:26 pm to
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Taking this to the court of public opinion wasnt only the most mature and brave way to handle this,


Now you're getting to my point

Crews said he was groped by an agent for several minutes, doesn't name the guy, cries about toxic masculinity in front of congress.

He didn't stop it apparently, didn't report it, but is getting a lot of attention. I'm not feeling very sorry for him, and not really sure if I believe him at this point.


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The assault lasted only minutes, but what he was effectively telling me while he held my genitals in his hand, was that he held the power,” Mr Crews told the committee in his opening statement. “That he was in control.”



Thuis was an agent, not producer

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This is how toxic masculinity permeates culture."

Senator Dianne Feinstein later asked Mr Crews why he had not fought off his alleged assailant, noting that the actor was a “big, powerful man”. Mr Crews replied that his initial response was to become violent, but that he held back.

“Senator, as a black man in America, you only have a few shots at success,” he told Ms Feinstein. “You only have a few chances to make yourself a viable member of the community.”]


Just doesn't smell right.

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Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 9:27 pm to
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You've really turned in to a terrible poster. What happened to you?


He has a massive superiority complex.

Used to be a normal, mostly rational poster. Too bad.
Posted by georgia
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 9:33 pm to
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This is how toxic masculinity permeates culture."

Senator Dianne Feinstein later asked Mr Crews why he had not fought off his alleged assailant, noting that the actor was a “big, powerful man”. Mr Crews replied that his initial response was to become violent, but that he held back.

“Senator, as a black man in America, you only have a few shots at success,” he told Ms Feinstein. “You only have a few chances to make yourself a viable member of the community.”]



He's not wrong. He's not saying that all masculinity is inherently toxic. he's saying that using his masculinity to perpetuate abuse is toxic. in effect, he's saying that two wrongs dont make a right.

also, take off your defensive posture for a second and assume that he had stooped to this man's level and beat him up, how long to do you think it would have taken him to be arrested for assault?
A black man with an assault charge is automatically going to be the fodder of every joke and his career constrained by every stereotype that exists about black men. That's what hes saying about being a viable member of his community.
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 9:35 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 9:36 pm to
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that he had stopped to this man's level and beat him up,


Listen, don't expect him to beat the guy up but you would think he would stop the guy from gtopingbhim for several minutes, don't you think?

If this event ever really happened
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:26 pm to
Good lord you don't even know what the hell you are talking about.

The guy didn't grab his junk for several minutes. That was the amount of time the entire incident in total.

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While at a party with his wife last year, Crews recalled the “bizarre” moment he had with Venit, who he said directed tongue movements at him.

"I’m looking like, 'Is this a joke?'... It was actually so bizarre," the actor explained. "He comes over to me. I stick my hand out, and he literally takes his hand and puts it and squeezes my genitals. I jump back like, ‘Hey, hey.’"

After Crews saw Venit continue with the tongue gestures, the actor asked what the agent was doing, only for him to pester on and giggle. Crews then explained that he pushed Venit away, causing the agent to bump into other partygoers.

“I have never felt more emasculated, more objectified. I was horrified," Crews said. The actor also revealed that he even put himself between Venit and his wife, because it was so uncomfortable.

"It’s so bizarre. I wake up every morning wondering, ‘Did this really happen?'" Crews said. He then explained the “rage” he felt afterward, “When I looked at him, it was rage. I felt like I could punch a hole in his head.”


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Thuis was an agent, not producer


Yeah, and agent who was one of more important dudes at that company. The same one Crews was a client of. A powerful agent can frick up your career just as much as a producer. Harvey Weinstein would hire PIs to dig up any dirt on his victims and if he couldn't find any he'd use his contact in the media to smear those people anyway.

Oh and what happened to that agent?

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WME's Adam Venit is back at the company's Beverly Hills headquarters after serving a one-month unpaid suspension, the agency confirmed Monday.


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Still, Venit, who reps such high-earning clients as Adam Sandler and Shawn Levy, has not escaped the allegations unscathed. The 54-year-old veteran agent, who also reps Steve Martin, Sylvester Stallone and Vince Vaughn, was demoted from his position as head of the motion picture department. Upon his return Monday, Venit made a tearful apology to staff at the agency's morning meeting, according to sources.

At the time of the incident, Crews complained about Venit's behavior to his agent, WME's Brad Slater, but agency sources say that the matter was never taken up the ladder. But following Crews' October tweet, WME learned that it was Venit whom the actor was referencing and began investigating to determine if it was an isolated event or indicative of a pattern. WME sources say the agency found the former to be the case.

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Pretty much fricking nothing. The agency DGAF b/c the dude brings in big names and gets them paid.

So yeah, Crews could have beat the shite out of the guy. But then what happens? Venit denies it, WME looks the other way, Crews goes to jail and his career is ruined. He is now unemployable, has a record, and has to explain to his wife "Sorry honey, I know we have 5 kids but can't let a guy grab my crouch and make tongue motions at me! I wouldn't be a real man!"
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 10:27 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:27 pm to
Terry has been such a whiny bitch lately
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:30 pm to
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A powerful agent can frick up your career just as much as a producer


bullshite

Complaining on social media helping his case any?

This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 10:32 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:32 pm to
The powerful people in a Hollywood expect you to put a price tag on your dignity. You either let them or you don’t.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:33 pm to
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The powerful people in a Hollywood expect you to put a price tag on your dignity. You either let them or you don’t.


this is as good a time as any to admit Pauly Shore fondled my nuts
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:33 pm to
Haha gay arse Terry Crews isn’t going to beat up anyone
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:34 pm to
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this is as good a time as any to admit Pauly Shore fondled my nuts


Damn, couldn't find an A lister?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:34 pm to
In that case Pauly is the victim
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:37 pm to
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DL Hughley is one of those "smart" guys who is actually like 110 IQ.


Hey that’s 25 points above average...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:37 pm to
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The powerful people in a Hollywood expect you to put a price tag on your dignity


Trade you're dignity for fame. It's always been a terrible industry with terrible people.
Posted by GreyBear
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:16 am to
DLH: legitimately a “prison bitch”
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:07 am to
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take off your defensive posture for a second and assume that he had stooped to this man's level and beat him up,


Why does everyone assume he had to beat this guy to a pulp?

Push him off and say stay the frick off me.

If this "executive" punished him for it, it turns into any other situation where a person of power punishes their underling because they didn't stay in check. What if he simply said, "do this immoral thing or you're fired". Then he said no and was punished?

Is that any better or worse than the guy fondling his balls and him being scared to do anything about it?
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:29 am to
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f if you can whoop his arse, it’s is it worth whooping his arse and pissing away your career?..... not so easy a decision all of a sudden


It's an easy decision if you aren't a whore or a gimp
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:31 am to
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Why does everyone assume he had to beat this guy to a pulp?


Because that's the penalty for being groped

There are few times under the law where one has liberty to punish the assailant...no need for J Q Cop to get involved when you can solve it right there.
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 2:00 am to
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Because that's the penalty for being groped 


Meh, I disagree. I've had my balls grabbed by a gay dude and I calmly told him to frick off or he'll regret it. If he had persisted then yes you're correct.

My point stands though, if Crews did like any self respecting guy did and pushed this guy off then was subsequently punished for it, wouldn't it just be another run of a mill case of higher ups taking advantage of their underlings, as oppose to some scandalous sexual assault case?
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 2:01 am
Posted by georgia
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 6:25 am to
To address your first response to me, I was t assuming that he should beat the guy up, I was actually advocating for his descision to stand down past the point of what he did, and telling someone else to stop assuming that the violent fight they were advocating for would come out okay for this guy.


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My point stands though, if Crews did like any self respecting guy did and pushed this guy off then was subsequently punished for it, wouldn't it just be another run of a mill case of higher ups taking advantage of their underlings, as oppose to some scandalous sexual assault case?


Did you read the account of what happened? That’s exactly what he did, and reported the incident internally and nothing was done about it, so when he felt like there was an opportunity to use his experience to shed light on a practice that’s largely been ignored he did so publicly, and people paid attention. But rather than believe him and accept that some things need to change it’s easier for some to say he should have just pushed the guy away and left it alone, or that it didn’t happen at all, or that it’s just the cost of doing business in Hollywood, or that he’s a bitch.


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