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re: DJ Chark thinks water is not wet
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:20 pm to beerJeep
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:20 pm to beerJeep
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No. Water isn’t saturated with water
Yes it does dumb dumb. water is a solvent and solute. Solutes dissolve in solvents. Water dissolves in water. This is saturation. This is literally high school chemistry level science and simply just fits the definition of wet.
If you do not believe me then google Molarity of water. Molarity = moles solute / liters solvent.
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 6:29 pm
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:27 pm to AMS
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Solvation describes the interaction of solvent with dissolved molecules. Ionized and uncharged molecules, interact strongly with solvent, and the strength and nature of this interaction influences many properties of the solute, including solubility, reactivity, and color, as well as influencing the properties of the solvent such as the viscosity and density.[1] In the process of solvation, ions are surrounded by a concentric shell of solvent. Solvation is the process of reorganizing solvent and solute molecules into solvation complexes. Solvation involves bond formation, hydrogen bonding, and van der Waals forces.
This does not occur when you add water to water. Aka, water doesn’t go through solvation with more water.
It’s high school level chemistry. Thanks for playing.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:28 pm to AMS
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Water dissolves in water.
Come on, man.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:34 pm to beerJeep
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Solvation describes the interaction of solvent with dissolved molecules. Ionized and uncharged molecules, interact strongly with solvent, and the strength and nature of this interaction influences many properties of the solute, including solubility, reactivity, and color, as well as influencing the properties of the solvent such as the viscosity and density.[1] In the process of solvation, ions are surrounded by a concentric shell of solvent. Solvation is the process of reorganizing solvent and solute molecules into solvation complexes. Solvation involves bond formation, hydrogen bonding, and van der Waals forces.
lmao you just quoted something you dont understand even at a high school level. The bolded parts absolutely happen within water. H-bonds and Van der waals are present and formed.
Seriously, google molarity of water. molarity is moles solute dissolved in liters solvent. explain how water can have a molarity if water does not solvate.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:35 pm to AMS
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hilarious coming from someone who doesnt think water is wet and that you have a substance with 0 depth/thickness.
This 0 depth/thickness farce you keep forcing upon me is retarded. I never said anything about making anything equal to 0. How you came to any such ideas or conclusions is a testament to how much you are attempting to twist logic.
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Space is occupied in at least 3 dimensions, baw. Dimensions can change and fluctuate, but not go to 0 for a given amount of water. Conservation refers to the ability to determine that a certain quantity will remain the same despite adjustment of the container, shape, or apparent size.
Baw, you don't know what the frick you are talking about. You are making up some completely off topic straw-man because you are dug in.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:37 pm to AMS
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Seriously, google molarity of water. molarity is moles solute dissolved in liters solvent. explain how water can have a molarity if water does not solvate.
Water is a solvent. Water does not solvate into more water
you’re a fricking idiot dude. quote:
The bolded parts absolutely happen within water. H-bonds and Van der waals are present and formed.
Not when you add water to more identical water
YOURE frickING WRONG. GIVE UP
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:38 pm to subotic
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Baw, you don't know what the frick you are talking about. You are making up some completely off topic straw-man because you are dug in.
no. If you have a glass of water and pour it on the ground, its still the same amount (volume) of water. the dimensions have changed, but it is still the same volume.
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This 0 depth/thickness farce you keep forcing upon me is retarded. I never said anything about making anything equal to 0. How you came to any such ideas or conclusions is a testament to how much you are attempting to twist logic.
You said there would be no thickness/depth if poured on to the ground. This is just false. or do you think the water is 2 dimensional now?
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:40 pm to beerJeep
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Water is a solvent. Water does not solvate into more water you’re a fricking idiot dude.
Correct that water is a solvent, but it is also a solute. seriously high school chem man.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:41 pm to AMS
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high school chem man.
Something you obviously failed and still can’t grasp.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:42 pm to beerJeep
"In chemistry, molarity is a concentration unit, defined to be the number of moles of solute divided by the number of liters of solution"
"Molarity of Pure water 55.5. weight of 1 lit water. Moles of water."
how can water have a molarity if there is no solute dissolved in solution?
"Molarity of Pure water 55.5. weight of 1 lit water. Moles of water."
how can water have a molarity if there is no solute dissolved in solution?
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:47 pm to AMS
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no. If you have a glass of water and pour it on the ground, its still the same amount (volume) of water. the dimensions have changed, but it is still the same volume
The dimensions HAVEN'T changed. YOU ONLY HAVE VOLUME. LIQUIDS DO NOT HAVE SHAPES!
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You said there would be no thickness/depth if poured on to the ground. This is just false. or do you think the water is 2 dimensional now?
That's cool. I never said that.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:54 pm to subotic
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The dimensions HAVEN'T changed. YOU ONLY HAVE VOLUME. LIQUIDS DO NOT HAVE SHAPES!
LMAO the shapes are the dimensions, They change but still equal the same volume.
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That's cool. I never said that.
maybe, but you insinuated it.
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What "thickness" will an amount of water have when you pour it on the floor? Do you not see the ridiculousness of your rebuttals?
Either way this is getting into the weeds we agree that volume is constant i think were arguing on semantics...
Water solutes dissolve into water solvent making a solution of water. The solution of water is as saturated as it will get. saturated with water = wet.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:59 pm to AMS
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how can water have a molarity if there is no solute dissolved in solution?
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The mole is the unit of measurement for amount of substance in the International System of Units (SI). The unit is defined as the amount or sample of a chemical substance that contains as many constitutive particles, e.g., atoms, molecules, ions, electrons, or photons, as there are atoms in 12 grams of carbon-12
Posted on 9/21/18 at 7:00 pm to AMS
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Water solutes dissolve into water solvent
Water cannot dissolve more water. Sorry Charlie. Give up. You’re fricking wrong.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 7:03 pm to beerJeep
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how can water have a molarity if there is no solute dissolved in solution?
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The mole is the unit of measurement for amount of substance in the International System of Units (SI). The unit is defined as the amount or sample of a chemical substance that contains as many constitutive particles, e.g., atoms, molecules, ions, electrons, or photons, as there are atoms in 12 grams of carbon-12
OK so you know what a mole is now. That is only a part of molarity. Let's see if we can build on this.
Molarity = (moles of SOLUTE dissolved in solution) / (Liters of solution).
Water has a molarity. That means water has a given amount of moles dissolved in a given volume of water.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 7:05 pm to AMS
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LMAO the shapes are the dimensions, They change but still equal the same volume.
I keep telling you that, by definition, liquids have no shape. You keep saying they do.
So I wouldn't really consider this an issue of semantics as much as you just feel like you can bend the definitions of the English language to avoid looking like an idiot.
I have reasoned scientifically, philosophically, and literally that water cannot be wet. The only factual things you have uttered in this thread have been fricked up regurgitations of things we have had to spoon feed to you.
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Water solutes dissolve into water solvent making a solution of water. The solution of water is as saturated as it will get. saturated with water = wet.
It reads dumber every time you post that.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 7:07 pm to AMS
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Water solutes dissolve into water solvent making a solution of water. The solution of water is as saturated as it will get. saturated with water = wet.
This is one of the more embarrassing threads I've seen in a while. Just in the last few pages you've argued that ice isn't water, water can become saturated by itself, and that water dissolves in water. If you weren't so earnest about it I'd think you were trolling.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 7:10 pm to AMS
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Molarity = (moles of SOLUTE dissolved in solution) / (Liters of solution).
It's like a teacher telling you that you can't divide by zero, but still trying.
You cannot increase the concentration of something by adding more of that something, you can only increase volume. The molarity of water stands only for the molecular weight of H2O per liter. THAT IS IT...not what concentration of water is dissolved in water. That is nonsense that a child could reasonably put down.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 7:10 pm to AMS
You are too stupid to help. Please look into sterilization.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 7:11 pm to subotic
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I keep telling you that, by definition, liquids have no shape. You keep saying they do.
So I wouldn't really consider this an issue of semantics as much as you just feel like you can bend the definitions of the English language to avoid looking like an idiot.
I have reasoned scientifically, philosophically, and literally that water cannot be wet. The only factual things you have uttered in this thread have been fricked up regurgitations of things we have had to spoon feed to you.
Liquids have no DEFINED shape, but they do have a shape, its based on their container. Their shape is also dynamic. You have only misrepresented facts and science.
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Water solutes dissolve into water solvent making a solution of water. The solution of water is as saturated as it will get. saturated with water = wet.
It reads dumber every time you post that.
Well its true that water dissolves in water. Pure water has a molarity. Molarity deals with solutes in a solution. This means water is a solute as well as a solvent in solution.
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