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Dinner with Former NSA head of technology

Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Houston Texas Tiger
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:17 pm
Was a really interesting talk. Discussed how active the Chinese, North Koreans, and Iranians are in trying to manipulate the banking systems. They steal billions of dollars a year from banking institutions from credit fraud and stealing identity of individuals who are not secure in their banking. A couple things that jumped out at me were:

iphones are some of the best ways to do business. Always, always update to the new patches and upgrades. Often the hackers get the patches, figure out what the patch fixed and what it was trying to avoid and try to manipulate the people who have not done so.

If you are investing or doing online banking, bank with one of the 9 major ones... Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan...etc They go through 500 million a year in anti terrorist expenditures to keep up with threats. Don;t want to go through a situation like equifax did

Avoid writing checks at all costs. Banking and routing numbers on on every check. One of the main causes of fraud

[b]Have a separate computer on a separate router for all your financial transactions. Do not use this computer for anything else, ever. Use another for any sort of other internet activity. Do not allow friends on the same router

Change the router password from the original.

Do not use a Chinese or russian antivirus software such as kasperski. She stressed this. She said use something like windows defender.

Also something we are all guilty of she said do not use same or similar passwords. And she said use a software that autogenerates passwords.

Was a really interesting conversation. She said how aggressive foreign countries are at attacking banking. Said at age 10, North Korean children are given aptitude tests for hacking. If the they succeed they train them from that age to crack code. Said everyone's social security, mothers maiden name, drivers license is on the deep web and available.

Get credit reports as often as you can.

Just found it interesting. Thought I would share.


Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:19 pm to
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She said use something like windows defender.


She's spot on here. Microsoft's AV solution is probably the best one out there until you start talking enterprise-level EDR solutions.

No reason a home user should be paying for AV.
Posted by ShootingsBricks4Life
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:20 pm to
Oh that's why you said "Former". Everything you just said is taught by a 60 year old in IT.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:20 pm to
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b]Have a separate computer on a separate router for all your financial transactions. Do not use this computer for anything else, ever


Yeah, and you should have a different sixteen character password for each account that you change weekly. That's not gonna happen either.

Posted by Centinel
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:22 pm to
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Oh that's why you said "Former". Everything you just said is taught by a 60 year old in IT.




And yet, the vast majority of organizations (and users) don't follow this basic advice.

Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:24 pm to

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Posted by MrSmith
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:25 pm to
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Often the hackers get the patches, figure out what the patch fixed and what it was trying to avoid and try to manipulate the people who have not done so.

No fricking way
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:25 pm to
Yeah lets worry about those 'foreigners'.

Equifax did more harm to the American people with their frick up, which is over 143 million American citizens. Again lets always shift the blame from those who fricked us over the worse. Now equifax is trying to scam more people by trying to get them to buy their product after doing a 'dark web' scam, I mean scan.

So if you get scammed for money all from the equifax frick up, regardless if it is eventually from foreigners, the blame should still be on equifax. Did they even get in trouble, or just a slap on the wrist?
Posted by halleburton
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:27 pm to
She’ll never invite you again after that thorough shakedown.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:28 pm to
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Yeah lets worry about those 'foreigners'.


It depends on why the organization got hacked. If it's from shitty patching or ignoring security standards, it's damn sure on the company.

However, if a foreign APT comes after you, you WILL be breached. Period. There's literally nothing that can be done to stop them. That's why the focus is on detection and remediation in most major orgs with mature security programs.
Posted by Houston Texas Tiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2004
1445 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:30 pm to
hey I am just passing along information I thought might be valuable to a few of you. If you don't want to do it that's your prerogative. It is happening much more than people think it is. As far as the tin foil hat conspiracy she saw it first hand. She is now hired by the banking industry to help keep these things from happening. For every 1000 attempts 999 get stopped by the major banking institutions. Thats why you get the phone call for unusual charge attempts on your credit card when you are out of town. There are very complicated algorithms that attempt to catch this before money exchanges hands. Just thought I would pass along what I found interesting in hopes that maybe a few found it helpful. for the rest of you
Posted by mikelbr
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:37 pm to
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[b]Have a separate computer on a separate router for all your financial transactions. Do not use this computer for anything else, ever. Use another for any sort of other internet activity. Do not allow friends on the same router


That is fricking stupid if your other precautions are on point.


Posted by Houston Texas Tiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:41 pm to
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That is fricking stupid if your other precautions are on point.


It might be overly cautious but it certainly not stupid. Kids often allow viruses or breaches in data when they are online along with elderly. It was a recommendation. Its safer than the alternative. While most people wont need it many will. Most that are targeted are elderly with little computer knowledge. This is the situation she was stressing.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:41 pm to
Everyone knows credit unions are better than those big banks. You think Wells Fargo gives a frick about its customers, which they have scammed on.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:43 pm to
Meh. Too much trouble.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:46 pm to
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You think Wells Fargo gives a frick about its customers, which they have scammed on.




No, but the do give a frick about government compliance requirements.

Wells Fargo is way, way more secure than your average small credit union. I'm not saying they're not still a shitty bank and that a credit union isn't the way to go, but if you're talking being secure, they (and the other heavyweights) are miles ahead.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49099 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:51 pm to
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It might be overly cautious but it certainly not stupid.


Well that kinda toes the line of wastefully unnecessary which in some circles is aka stupid. You can't justify wasting money on additional hardware and time on configuration if aforementioned cautions are taken on a HOME network. You seriously gonna side with an ole bitch who told you buy two routers for home network? You gonna tell Cox to rent you two of them cable modem/routers? No. They all come ready to rock with a GUEST network you can keep relatively isolated from your 'main' network. Even non-network savvy people can figure that shite out.


Do I need bullet proof windows on my vehicle? Of course it wouldn't be stupid in Baton Rouge. But it would likely be a waste of money and time.

This post was edited on 6/17/18 at 5:32 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 2:32 pm to
A lurker texted me and asked me to ask if she had any advice for safely accessing PH.
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