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re: Did i see a possible dry run for a terrorist attack?

Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:45 am to
Posted by jwall3
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:45 am to
In a remote cave somewhere in the Afghan mountains:

Terrorist #1: (Having just perused the O-T Lounge from his new Walmart laptop) I have a new and fresh idea that will strike terror in the hearts of millions in america and bring the economy of the infidel to her knees.

Terrorist #2: What is that?

Terrorist #1: We can buy some backpacks and walk into a Walmart near Chicago. Apparently there is no security. We can cripple the US economy my friend. nd if we get caught, we can say the guy is a racist!
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:46 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:46 am to
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yeah, U.S. terrorists are camera whores. they want to take down iconic infrastructures

exactly

quote:

it'd be a terrible strategy to take down a random walmart because it'd be way too difficult to perpetuate small attacks like that to generate a consistent fear

yup

america is WAY too big

hell just take a city like BR that is really big geographically. you could attack 1 area with people getting scared, and you'd prolly feel absolutely safe in the other 85% of BR
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33239 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:46 am to
SFP, why in the blue hell are you giving the General a hard time over this?

The events as he has laid this out are very suspicious, period. They win by him being a concerned citizen?! Dude, really?

Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13946 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:47 am to
Perhaps you would like to contribute more to the conservation than pointless, inane pictures. I have posted valid counter arguments to your flimsy ones and all you can do is come up with some stupid picture. Jerk.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:47 am to
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This would effect the value of people's 401k's and other retirement accounts if they have index based mutual funds or have stock in Wal Mart specifically.

and people still need to buy food and cheap shite

if wal mart's stock goes down, target'ss, albertson's, winn dixie's, etc go up
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13946 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:48 am to
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if wal mart's stock goes down, target'ss, albertson's, winn dixie's, etc go up


That would probably happen, but I doubt their stocks would go up by as much as WalMart's went down (in terms of market capitalization).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465465 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:48 am to
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SFP, why in the blue hell are you giving the General a hard time over this?

over
reaction

it is the type of thinking that america needs less of

quote:

The events as he has laid this out are very suspicious, period.

go to the college drive wal mart sometime

or hell, go to my favorite, the siegen wal mart

this will seem perfectly normal when you look at it in context
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13946 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:49 am to
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go to the college drive wal mart sometime

or hell, go to my favorite, the siegen wal mart

this will seem perfectly normal when you look at it in context


Perfectly normal!!??? Wow. I guess i should've waited for them to put on red bandanas and start shouting Allah Ahkbar before I noticed them???
Posted by jwall3
Member since Jun 2008
3029 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:50 am to
quote:

go to the college drive wal mart sometime

or hell, go to my favorite, the siegen wal mart

this will seem perfectly normal when you look at it in context


Seriously. How many times have I dropped my wife or mother at the door and driven around for thirty minutes when they said they just needed to run in? People probably thought I was casing the place.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465465 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:50 am to
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but I doubt their stocks would go up by as much as WalMart's went down (in terms of market capitalization).

as long as americans need to buy food, the economic impact will be a net 0

that's why attacking perhaps the most fungible of stores is completely retarded in terms of economic impact

trains and planes are completely different animals. if you have to travel long distances you have to fly or go by train (in europe). there are not other options. if people stop taking long trips, then there is an impact

long trips are not necessary for survival. food is
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13946 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:53 am to
You are hopeless if you think that a terrorist attack on ANY major shopping outlet, let alone WalMart, would have a net neutral or positive effect on the economy. Just the psychological impact of being hit on U.S. soil again would send ripple effects throughout the markets. I mean, these stock brokers go crazy if the CPI is .2% below or above expectations, you don't think a terrorist attack would lead to a selloff???
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33239 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:53 am to
sfp, just b/c you interprete his experience as over reaction does not mean it is so. Believe it or not, a six digit post count does not = wisdom.

Say one of these "harmless" gentlemen do indeed wipeout many inncent people in the coming days, what guidance will you have for all of us narrowminded folk?

Your ambivolence does not amaze me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465465 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:54 am to
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Wow. I guess i should've waited for them to put on red bandanas and start shouting Allah Ahkbar before I noticed them???

ok dude listen

IF this was a terrorist attack in the preparation stage, then you have to think about it like they would

why would they be so stupid to pick that target and do it out in the open where any joe schmoe (you) would see?

IF this was a legit prep for an attack, they wanted you to see them and divert resources to this wal mart and other similar areas. then they'll use this gap to attack their real target
Posted by jwall3
Member since Jun 2008
3029 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:55 am to
Why would they risk an attack now when their friend Obama is ready to be elected president. I can only imagine that this would have a much larger impact on the US economy in a negative way.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13946 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:55 am to
quote:

IF this was a legit prep for an attack, they wanted you to see them and divert resources to this wal mart and other similar areas. then they'll use this gap to attack their real target

That is a plausible scenario. Another one could be these two guys could've been friends with different guys who would actually carry out the attack at some later point in time. Who knows what the real story is here.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465465 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:56 am to
quote:

just b/c you interprete his experience as over reaction does not mean it is so.

even if it was a dry run, there is nothing you can do to stop them from doing this in any shopping mart

i refuse to live in fear, especially over a threat that cannot be stopped

quote:

Say one of these "harmless" gentlemen do indeed wipeout many inncent people in the coming days, what guidance will you have for all of us narrowminded folk?

it's the nature of the beast

people can choose to live in fear and ruin their lives or not. that's their choice

i will say this. you're going to die at some point, and wasting your life while you're alive is not a good thing
Posted by Dark Helmet
Spaceballs One
Member since Sep 2007
413 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:57 am to

No! Obama would talk with them. That is what General Lee should have done. Talk with these guys and try to reason with them if they are for real.
Posted by tygerfan70118
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2006
6110 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 11:57 am to
SFP you don't want to get into an agrument with this dude, he is an economic guru
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465465 posts
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:00 pm to
he is also a master of homeland security
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