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re: Did Google pull a "Gavin Belson" on search manipulation w/ Hillary Clinton

Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:59 am to
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:59 am to
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so we're under the assumption that HRC has spent millions of SEO to promote "Hillary clinton India"? but even then, the indictment isn't even listed, so it's not an issue of "ranking" you'd see "Hillary Clinton India" firs tand then "Hillary Clinton indictment" second you wouldn't have the "indictment" search eliminated entirely


Not every possible way to finish shows up. HC Ind... Could be one of 100s of possibilities:
Indian/a
Independence
Indoor
Indecent; etc

It's just the tip 3+ that show up. You can't tell me indictment or criminal is not in the top searches for Ind or cri.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:59 am to
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Why does the exact same thing happen when you Google "Bill Cosby Indi", compared to Yahoo.

The first predictive search result on Google was Indiana, and indictment was nowhere to be found in any of the suggested results, compared to Yahoo where the first predictive result was indictment.

*Not taking a side, just pointing this out ...


No one wants to hear facts or discussion. They've already vilified Google and made up there minds.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Why does the exact same thing happen when you Google "Bill Cosby Indi", compared to Yahoo.

The first predictive search result on Google was Indiana, and indictment was nowhere to be found in any of the suggested results, compared to Yahoo where the first predictive result was indictment.

*Not taking a side, just pointing this out ...


No one wants to hear facts or discussion. They've already vilified Google and made up there minds.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:00 pm to
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oh shite. since this story broke, go type in "Hillary Clinton ind" and you'll now get an indictment result
holy shite. i tried this morning and it matched the video now when you type in Hillary Clinton ind it autocompletes to "indictment for emails" as the number one choice.

that's some smoking gun shite right there.

Still no "crooked Hillary" though just "crooked hillary bernie" whatever the hell that is.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:01 pm to
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WTF


Do you have any idea how many thousands of times a day people mention Hitler and Trump in the same sentence on the internet?
Posted by drexyl
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:02 pm to
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It makes perfect sense that Hilary Clinton india would come up and indictment wouldn't.
then why - in a matter of hours - has "indictment for emails" risen to the number one autocomplete?
Posted by musick
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:02 pm to
What's interesting is that we already 100% know she paid an IT firm/advisor to SET UP A PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER IN HER HOUSE to conduct and hide government-related emails on (which went POOF, btw)

Her investing millions into SEO doesn't seem like far of a leap. I used to work in SEO, the way that works, she would have had to spend an enormous amount of $ to get that result if google wasn't involved (but not impossible). Also, the natural rankings of actual searches and trends would have been hard to compete against.

But in theory, if you spent enough money, you can alter the results to whatever you want.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:05 pm to
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then why - in a matter of hours - has "indictment for emails" risen to the number one autocomplete?


It's actually quite simple. This news story was on google news main page, along with facebook's news feed.

That (and this thread is a great example) made probably millions of people type in "indictment" and google is showing real time results. the more people that try this will solidify that result.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16969 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:09 pm to
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Do you have any idea how many thousands of times a day people mention Hitler and Trump in the same sentence on the internet?


Do you know how many people search "Clinton Indictment"? Because the video shows the analytics. Almost 8 times as much as "Clinton India", yet that's higher on the recommendations.

Explain that.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:19 pm to
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Because the video shows


That Hillary Clinton is friends with and funded by a data analytic specialist who used to work at Google.

Everyone in this thread had already made up their minds the the heads of Google are actively changing the algorithm and search function of Google to help Hilary Clinton, but isn't it at least equally possible that the expert of the world's data analytics that has an inside knowledge of Google who works for Hillary Clinton would know how to write a program or run a plan which would actively bury negative results in the search function?

It's not like Google scrubbed the internet of Hilary Clinton bad things. Again, if you type Hilary Clinton Crimi, then all the right searches show up.

I'm not a Hillary Clinton supporter by any stretch of the imagination. I'm just looking at the situation logically and trying to get all the facts.

But every time I ask a question I'm just met with personal attacks or stupid questions that have nothing to do with my point.

Of course, I've been here long enough to know this is SoP, but usually there is a guy or two who wants to have legitimate discussion.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted by bgtiger
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:19 pm to
You are not a bright person, but I assume you think you are. Sad.
Posted by member12
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:19 pm to
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Do you have any idea how many thousands of times a day people mention Hitler and Trump in the same sentence on the internet?


You have any idea how many thousands of times a day Hillary and bitch are mentioned in the same sentence on the internet?
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:23 pm to
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Hillary and bitch are mentioned in the same sentence on the internet?


Hitler isn't a curse word. And isn't filter sensitive.

Bitch, frick, shite, etc... Are curse words and Google tries not auto fill curse words.

However, of you type in Hillary Clinton bich, it will ask you if you meant Hillary Clinton Bitch
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33051 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:24 pm to
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However, of you type in Hillary Clinton bich, it will ask you if you meant Hillary Clinton Bitch


It ask me if I mean "Hillary Clinton Bitcoin"

Also, "bitch" is a female dog as much as it is derogatory language.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 12:30 pm
Posted by musick
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:29 pm to
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 12:30 pm
Posted by musick
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:30 pm to


sith lord? that is great
Posted by member12
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33051 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:31 pm to
Of course she's a sith lord. Everyone knows that.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
7053 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

quote:
then why - in a matter of hours - has "indictment for emails" risen to the number one autocomplete?


It's actually quite simple. This news story was on google news main page, along with facebook's news feed.

That (and this thread is a great example) made probably millions of people type in "indictment" and google is showing real time results. the more people that try this will solidify that result.


That's actually what is quite elegant about this whole issue, starting with the OPs original link.

They have forced the word indictment into the conversation. And like a magician forcing a marked card , the rubes picked it and thought they made an active choice.

But now indictment is trending but the articles that will flood the Internet about it will be about analytics and not about, you know, an actual indictment.

And because this forum has a lot of traffic and is visiting frequently, this thread will bolster that collocation of the words - Hillary email indictment. It won't be about Hilary and her problems. It will be about Hilary and data nerd stuff.

Pretty fricking clever.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:34 pm to
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More than likely, there just aren't that many people googling the phrase Hillary Clinton criminal



I googled it just last week. I'm sure there are tons of people who have done it.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
15932 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:35 pm to
I wanted to learn more about Hillary Clinton and India and stupid Bing autocompleted to Hillary Clinton Indictment. What a pain!!!
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