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Did Britain REALLY intercept Germany's message to Mexico?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:44 pm
I find it hard to believe that Germany would really want another power on their arse (whom of which is remaining neutral). I understand that they thought they were the supreme military... But it just doesn't make sense. Hindsight and whatnot but from the outside looking in, it looks like Britain was facing defeat after Churchill screwed the pooch. Then they sparked confrontation by claiming to intercept a message from Germany.
Do I need to get my tinfoil hat or were we dupped?
Do I need to get my tinfoil hat or were we dupped?
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:45 pm to RBWilliams8
Woodrow Wilson was a doosh
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:46 pm to RBWilliams8
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I find it hard to believe that Germany would really want another power on their arse (whom of which is remaining neutral).
They attacked Russia for no reason and started fighting wars on each side of Europe. So I believe that Germany would have done that.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:47 pm to RBWilliams8
Are you talking about the Zimmermann Telegram? That was WWI brah.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:47 pm to RBWilliams8
You got ya wars confused.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:48 pm to RBWilliams8
WW1 boy, and yeah the English were reading the Mexicans mail.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:48 pm to diddydirtyAubie
They were trying to overpower the continent and gain control. They wanted to overtake a socialist Russia.
I doubt they'd try to half arse take over a country while they had their plate full. But it's all speculation.
I doubt they'd try to half arse take over a country while they had their plate full. But it's all speculation.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:49 pm to RBWilliams8
The Zimmermann telegram didn't get us involved in WWI but it helped sway public opinion.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:50 pm to Mo Jeaux
Where did I mention WW2
(Legit question bc I could have given it away with misinformed details).
(Legit question bc I could have given it away with misinformed details).
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:50 pm to RBWilliams8
It probably wasn't hard to intercept transatlantic communications back then. telegrams were literally done via few cables in the Atlantic between north America and Europe.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:52 pm to KosmoCramer
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The Zimmermann telegram didn't get us involved in WWI but it helped sway public opinion.
Us not getting involved wasn't a direct result from the general public not wanting to?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:53 pm to RBWilliams8
quote:Us not being involved was because Wilson was a gigantic pussy
Us not getting involved wasn't a direct result from the general public not wanting to?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:54 pm to VanCleef
Not doubting the possibilities. But what did Germany benefit from Mexico gaining 3 bordering states?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:55 pm to danman6336
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Us not being involved was because Wilson was a gigantic pussy
Bc he didn want to face blame or public outcry
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:55 pm to RBWilliams8
It was certainly part of it, but we were getting involved anyway after.
But it's authenticity can't be denied, they were confirmed by Zimmermann himself.
But it's authenticity can't be denied, they were confirmed by Zimmermann himself.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:55 pm to KosmoCramer
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The Zimmermann telegram didn't get us involved in WWI but it helped sway public opinion.
It's crazy how imperialistic the world still was just 100 years ago. Mexico was still butthurt over the Mexican American War and Germany wanted to help them get back the lost Mexican Cession.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:55 pm to RBWilliams8
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Not doubting the possibilities. But what did Germany benefit from Mexico gaining 3 bordering states?
A two front war.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:56 pm to KosmoCramer
Can you tell me where I got wars mix up or was it an assumption and everyone following suit Per norm. If it's wrong I'd like to correct it.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:57 pm to The Boat
Despite my Spanish decent (fraction) is anyone else worried about Mexico being funded and doing that shite again? History in tending to repeat itself and whatnot. I mean, they've already infested the country...
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:59 pm to RBWilliams8
Because he wanted to take the politically advantageous position, which ever way the wind blew, which was eventually to go to war
He ran on keeping us out of war to get reelected, so we stayed out for a while and then got us into a war because it was politically advantageous for him to do so
Because he was a slimy frick
He ran on keeping us out of war to get reelected, so we stayed out for a while and then got us into a war because it was politically advantageous for him to do so
Because he was a slimy frick
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