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re: Derek Chauvin Sentenced to 22.5 years

Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5460 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:07 pm to
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Good, they have too much power and i believe there should be no victimless crimes.


Why would it be "good" for law enforcement to wither and decay? It is integral to the rule of law and civilized society. The predictable result of law enforcement decay would be more crime, suffering, and chaos.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:07 pm to
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Not kneel on him for 8+ minutes?



How many minutes would have been acceptable to you to detain a known felon on drugs that is resisting arrest?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
41946 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:08 pm to
Here we go, CourtTV is reporting that the crowd is mad it wasn't longer, black men get longer, etc. We might get some rioting out of this yet.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:09 pm to
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Only because your guy lost...



There were no winners in this case so Im not sure what your point is
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:09 pm to
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But the cop went overboard....


how so? What was he supposed to do?

in other words...what would you have done?


Got off of him after he was cuffed?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:10 pm to
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How many minutes would have been acceptable to you to detain a known felon on drugs that is resisting arrest?

You had him in cuffs. Put him in the car and go.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293733 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:10 pm to
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your guy lost...


Retardation of progressives in a nutshell.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:10 pm to
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I would have put his arse in the cop car and took his as away...



They tried...GF crawled out the other side of the backseat...


God Damn Pete...are you fricking stupid? Did you even follow this story???
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:11 pm to
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I’ve never wanted to own a firearm, but our police forces are going to be decayed to their core over the next several years and it will be up to citizens to enforce law and order.


You’re correct about police forces decaying, but the moment you defend yourself or your property, they will come after you.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71167 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:11 pm to
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black men get longer,

No they don't.

George Floyd's dead arse got five years for armed robbery/home invasion with having a list of prior convictions. I can introduce you to a white dude who got 75 years for the same crime with no priors whatsoever.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:11 pm to

The piece of trash was cuffed. Let him flop like a fish on cam but don't kneel on him like an idiot. Admitting Chauvin is dumb as hell isn't going to mean your little tough guy persona here is all in vain. Pretty simpleton hill to die on really.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:11 pm to
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Got off of him after he was cuffed?



Thats not protocol
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
41946 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:12 pm to
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Why would it be "good" for law enforcement to wither and decay? It is integral to the rule of law and civilized society. The predictable result of law enforcement decay would be more crime, suffering, and chaos.



....because they have too much power.

Law enforcement needs to be left up to local cities/counties.
Law enforcement needs to not have military grade equipment.
Law enforcement needs to not financially benefit from arrests/tickets/etc.
Law enforcement needs to be paid for by local govts and their citizens, not federal grants.
Police unions and qualified immunity needs to go away.

Ultimately I believe all victimless crimes should be done away with, but until then, traffic offenses should not be handled by armed officers. If they're that scared of what they will be faced with, use cameras and mail in tickets (ALTHOUGH I think this is a farce as well).
Posted by dclt145
Member since Jan 2021
746 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:12 pm to
Chauvin did nothing wrong IMO
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:12 pm to
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You had him in cuffs. Put him in the car and go.



They tried....are you just now following this story?
Posted by solus
Member since Dec 2019
3568 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:13 pm to
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No one in their right mind is going to want to risk decades


Thats what happens when everybody want guns...."omg omg it's so dangerous, thugs everywhere with guns..but I need mah gun rights too"
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84270 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:13 pm to
22.5 is less than I thought he’d get. In that sense he’s gotta be somewhat relieved he won’t die in prison of old age.
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15846 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:14 pm to
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Calling all lawbaws, how much of that will he serve before eligible for parole?



Minnesota uses determinate sentencing. Under this system, there is no parole board and no time off for good behavior. Offenders serve two-thirds of their prison sentence incarcerated and the remaining third on supervised release. ... However, more severe violations will require the offender to be brought back to prison.

Assuming no appeals, 15 years or so.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 3:16 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:14 pm to
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Got off of him after he was cuffed?


Thats not protocol


Link?


btw-Following orders is not a defense.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70762 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:15 pm to
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Here we go, CourtTV is reporting that the crowd is mad it wasn't longer, black men get longer, etc. We might get some rioting out of this yet.



Local dollar tree and auto zones better board up now
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