re: Delphi, IN Murders Trial Thread

Lunch update from True Hidden Crime

Defense has rested. First words spoken this morning. I think the Defense has done well, but I thought they may go after Weber once more.

After Defense rested - state's rebuttal took place. One of them was the psychiatrist from the prison. Lot of objections from Defense. At end of his testimony, it seems he was trying to say that at some point Allen was displaying no signs of psychosis and he said he wanted to apologize to the families of the little girls. This comes off to me like a Hail Mary from the prosecution and frankly, an insult to the juror's intelligence. And it tells me the prosecution knows its case has been wrecked.

She says closing arguments might get started this afternoon. I don't think that's fair to either side. Seems like they should get the rest of the day off or an entire day to prep for that - murder trial, kind of important to get this right. The jury needs a break as well.

For some reason the number of people getting allowed into the courtroom keeps decreasing. Anyway, I guess this means that by COB tomorrow, or earlier, the jury will be in deliberations.

I predict we get a hung jury by Friday.

I think it’ll be guilty

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You and I aren't on the jury.

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We are discussing the same decision the jury will make, are we not?

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I understand that, you don't appear to.

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Ah, another insult substituting for an argument.

Good talk.

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Did the defense ever call Allen's wife to testify?

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Hell no.

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I thought they were going to do so,

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Why in the world would they do that? I can’t imagine she would be any kind of help. And the prosecution can’t compel a spouse to testify against their spouse, but if the defense calls her, that opens her up to everything on cross. “Did Richard own a jacket like the one seen on the video at the time of murders? Jeans? Shoes? Head covering? Was he off work on that Monday? Were you with him and can corroborate his alibi where he changed the time he originally said he was there to an earlier time? Did you take this picture of your daughter on the High Bridge? Is that a place that your family visited occasionally and knew the area? Was Richard known to frequent the area by himself? What would he tell you he was doing on these solo trips? Checking the stocks on his phone? That was kind of an obsession of his, wouldn’t you say? The doctor testified earlier he was talking about that during their visits. She said “Richard…..” Does that seem like an accurate description of how often he would check the stock ticker on his phone? In your opinion, would it be abnormal for him to go out to the high bridge and not take his phone with him? I’d like you to look at this evidence already presented of his cell phone records. Is that his number? Can you tell the jury how many times his phone showed activity near the trails that day from noon to 4? Zero, huh? Don’t you find that odd that your husband, with an obsession or hobby of constantly checking the stick ticker on his phone would happen to show none in the 4-hour window covering the entire time span of both of his stories of when he was there? And don’t you find it a pretty big coincidence that day and time and place just happened to coincide with the day and time and place that Abby and Libby were brutally murdered? “Objection, your honor, calls for…” “Sustained.” (But you can’t unring that bell).

“Mrs. Allen, what kind of car was your husband driving around the date of February 13th, 2017? Could you describe it for the jury please? The prosecution would like to re-enter the video captured from the ___building security cam video captured at 1:27 on the day of the murders. Does this car heading west toward the building where Mr. Allen admitted to parking that day, does that look like his car? I know you can’t identify it 100%, but does it look like his car? So, it could be his car? Thank you. And since you’re familiar with the trail area, could you give us an estimate on how long it might take to get from where the car in this video was seen to where Mr. Allen admitted parking, to walk to the area around this the circle en route to the high bridge? Just a ballpark would be fine. Thank you. So, in your opinion, as someone who has visited there before and is familiar with the area, is it reasonable that if that was his car, he could have passed this group of girls that he admitted to passing at this spot, if they were on this bench in the diagram/aerial photo. I’d like to re-introduce as evidence the photo of Jane Does 1 and 2 taken by Jane Doe 3 and time stamped at 1:26 pm on 2/13/17. Thank you. Now let’s talk about the phone conversations you and Mr. Allen had during some of your visits to the prison to see him….”

She would be a disaster witness for the defense.

Also, the prosecution has at least 3 hairs they didn't test. They are waiting on new DNA technology to test the hairs.

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After Defense rested - state's rebuttal took place. One of them was the psychiatrist from the prison. Lot of objections from Defense. At end of his testimony, it seems he was trying to say that at some point Allen was displaying no signs of psychosis and he said he wanted to apologize to the families of the little girls. This comes off to me like a Hail Mary from the prosecution and frankly, an insult to the juror's intelligence. And it tells me the prosecution knows its case has been wrecked.

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I got to dive into this a bit last night. So, the psychiatrist who diagnosed Allen’s psychosis (this is when he was smearing himself with and eating his own shite) and prescribed the Haldol, continued to observe Allen once medicated. At some point, days after there were no longer signs of psychosis, Allen tells this psychiatrist that he wants a chance to apologize to the victims’ families for what he’s done.

I have no earthly idea how you’d classify this as a “Hail Mary” or an insult to the jurors’ intelligence. The defense’s stance is that Allen’s confessions were false and brought on by the severe mental trauma resulting from his specific means of incarceration. This witness clearly indicates that Allen continued to take responsibility for the murders after he was properly medicated and showing no signs of the previous break. That’s a blow to the defense.

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I have no earthly idea how you’d classify this as a “Hail Mary” or an insult to the jurors’ intelligence.

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On the day Allen said he wanted to apologize to the victims' families, the psychiatrist said he was showing no signs of psychosis.

Then, the defense showed one of the videos they showed before...a video from the same day....where Allen has a 1000 yard stare for several minutes at a time and at times, cannot hold his head up.

When asked about the difference in what the video showed and what the psychiatrist said about his state of mind, the doctor said something to the effect of "he does not know why Allen’s actions seem different on video than what he had recorded in his noted but that he does not question his own records."

A couple of the youtube lawyers who are attending the trial said the jury was not impressed with that answer.

Both also thought that the State's rebuttal was just so they could have the last word. They don't think it swayed anything.

I'm still thinking hung jury.

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This is why I don’t understand why the Judge didn’t allow this trial to be televised, and thinks she deserves criticism.

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I don't know what her reasons were. Perhaps due to some of the sensitive videos shown. Those were even blocked from the people inside the courtroom. Perhaps, the families of the victims didn't want it to be more of a circus than it already is. If my child was murdered, I'm not sure I would want the trial of the murderer televised. I just don't know.

The jury has started deliberations. Rebuttal must have been relatively short.