re: Delphi, IN Murders Trial Thread

Put me in the camp of those that think RA probably did it but that the state has a very weak circumstantial case thus far. I agree it probably will come down to whether or not the supposed jailhouse confessions were legit or not.

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Allen told Mullin that he saw three girls near the Freedom Bridge as he was walking toward the trail. After he got to the high bridge, Allen said he looked down Deer Creek and watched the fish, Mullin testified.

Mullin also told jurors that Allen was wearing a blue or black Carhartt jacket, jeans and a beanie.

There were inconsistencies between Allen's statements in 2017 and 2022. He told Dulin in 2017 that he arrived at the trail around 1:30 p.m. He told Mullin in 2022 that he got there around noon. He told Dullin in 2017 that he left the trail around 3:30 p.m. But in his interview with Mullin, he said he was not on the trail later than 2 p.m.

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He admits to wearing a heavy jacket and a beanie on an unseasonably warm day. What’s the chance someone else was wearing a blue Carhartt jacket (which his wife also admitted he owned) and a beanie on a relatively warm day? When shown video of bridge guy and asked if that was him he answers ‘if that is from the girls phone then it can’t be him”. Never says it isn’t him or doesn’t look like him.

He changes the time he was out there from between 1:30 and 3:30 to noon and 2:00. Surveillance footage from a nearby business puts a car like his passing just before 1:30 headed toward the trail.

When he first reports to authorities a couple days after the crime that he was out there the “bridge guy” video hadn’t been made public yet. He had no way of knowing that was even taken yet. He never would have reported on himself if he had seen that beforehand.

Unseasonably warm doesn’t mean warm. It means relatively warm for February in Indiana.

Which person would you guess is more appropriately dressed that day?





And they did own hats like that if needed.

I just saw a blurb on Facebook from a reporter who said a blood splatter expert testified today that Libby likely cried after being wounded because there was a trail of moisture mixed with blood that ran from the corner of her eye to her ear. Gut wrenching.

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You're talking about little girls here- barely teenagers. Probably very easy to intimidate and control. Likely one of the reasons the evil piece of trash targeted them.

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Makes sense, but it's just hard for me to imagine there was no fighting, clawing, attempt to run, etc. Watching the video below right now. Blood spatter guy says it's possible more than one killer was there. However, he wasn't there for the investigation. He was brought in years later and had to work from photos. I'm a bit surprised this type of expert wasn't on the scene originally, and that the crime scene wasn't video taped. One girl had blood on her hands and the other girl did not. No explanation for that.

Allen's DNA not at the crime scene and none of the girls' DNA found on any of the items taken from Allen's home.

Apparently some of the juror questions were about quality control of reagents and similar themes, making some wonder if the jury thinks LE planted evidence.

If he gets off God has other ways to deliver justice.

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Apparently some of the juror questions were about quality control of reagents and similar themes, making some wonder if the jury thinks LE planted evidence.

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What evidence could they have planted? There's no direct evidence of his presence at the murder scene.

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But yet none of those witnesses could say that RA was definitely Bridge Guy.

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What do you mean by “definitely?” They said (in the probable cause document and will no doubt testify to it) that it was him. Did you want them to scan his fricking fingerprints onto a phone app or something?

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Nor was his DNA found at scene.

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So? Again, the CSI shows have warped your brains. DNA evidence is not required for a conviction. Besides, they found no DNA evidence at the scene besides the girls’. Do you think they killed themselves?

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He places himself on a public trail. That's it.

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No, he places himself on the bridge—a very specific part of one of many public trails in a pretty huge park where the girls were last seen (on video) at/around the time the crime occurred on a work day wearing the same outfit the Bridge Guy had on. And there is no other reported sighting of any other man out there at the time.

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I think he probably did it

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No, he did it.

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but there still isn't any direct evidence yet.

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Dear Lord. Direct evidence isn’t required for a conviction. Just enough indirect or circumstantial to leave the jury without reasonable doubt that it was anybody else. Have they met that burden yet? Probably not. But they’re not finished. But it seems a lot of you need either DNA or a snuff film of him actually killing them and turning to the camera and giving his full name and social security number.

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If the jailhouse confessions show that he admitted details only known to police it will change everything.

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Finally, we agree on something. I think the jailhouse confessions are going to wind up being the crux of the prosecution’s case. All this leading up to it is foreplay. I don’t think they would have even brought this to trial yet if the confessions weren’t extremely damning. We’ll see.

I don’t know how many more witnesses the prosecution intends to call, but I’m really curious about who all the defense is going to call as well. Who’s paying for his defense and do they have enough money to bring in a bunch of expert witnesses to refute the video/audio Libby took, to refute the bullet “matching,” etc…But if the prosecution is counting as much on the confessions as I think, the defense’s “star witness” will likely be some psychiatrist that talks about how confinement, the drugs they gave him to calm him down, how the overall environment could lead to hallucinations and false confessions. Then the prosecution will likely call a rebuttal witness who monitored him in jail to testify to the fact that he was normal up until he confessed to his wife and mom and got a visit from his attorney the next day or so, and THAT’S when he began acting all bat-shite and confessing to things that never happened.

All that should be fascinating. Does anybody know how long they expect the trial to take? I haven’t heard that mentioned. They’ve sequestered the jury, but are going 6 days a week, so it’s probably gonna be a while.

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Hot Carl

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Solid videos thanks for adding those