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re: Defeat the Nurse Practitioner scope of practice expansion - Louisiana SB 187

Posted on 5/27/16 at 8:44 am to
Posted by Parallax
Member since Feb 2016
1459 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 8:44 am to
quote:

I am a nurse practitoner... I work for a hospitalist group

I'm sure you're great at consulting.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:40 am to
True. You do a lot in medicine for patients at the expense of ones own health. It kind of goes with the turf
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:42 am to
I am not in primary care or family medicine. I wouldn't do what you said if I were. I'd see them all myself
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:46 am to
I can't comment on every doctor everywhere. What I can say, is on average, primary care doctors are far more trained and far more equipped to handle the autonomous practice of medicine in a primary care setting than any other group of people.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:49 am to
And abuse of the law is not a reason to dissolve the law. It's a reason to tighten the law.

Imagine --everyone in your town should obey a speed limit of 50. They all decide to drive 110 though town. Surely unwanted outcomes would occur due to the breaking the law.

What should we make the limit 130 because of the noncompliance at 50?
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:52 am to
You and this issue have become just the worse thing on the OT. I hope it passes just to see your melt. Heck you are melting before it's been passed.
Posted by jat912
Florida Parishes
Member since Jun 2008
231 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 12:10 pm to
The NPs have been making that accusation for years. They have never provided documentation of those allegations.
The physicians offered caps on those fees as part of a negotiated resolution to this issue, and the NPs flatly rejected the offer. It's not a real issue - it is a complaint being used to justify independence, not a problem to be solved (in their opinion).
Ask the NP leadership about cap fees - they will change the subject to another talking point.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 12:21 pm to
Thanks for your contributions
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 5:48 pm to
The vote is Tuesday May 31st
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/29/16 at 5:17 pm to
Where's traffic circle and Jamarkus this time? Missing yalls commentary
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 1:17 am to
LINK

So deceptive. Never will call a physician a doctor. But repeatedly nurses are termed "doctorally trained Aprns."

"Modernizing" our healthcare system....

Surely this cannot mean removing the long education from your primary care "doc" and replacing them with someone who never went to medical school or a day of residency but who has maybe 1/8 the training.

And this business about it not being a scope battle is absolutely ridiculous. Autonomous decision making is unlimited scope.

Vote is Tuesday
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 1:26 am
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39658 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:17 am to
If I just need an oil change, I don't need to see a master mechanic. He doesn't want to see me, either.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22654 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:21 am to
But MDs will claim that if something goes wrong while changing your oil, they will be equipped to fix the problem and NPs are not capable b/c they didn't go to mechanics school and learn how the engine actually runs.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17881 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:35 am to
So why has the medical board, up to this point , not done anything on their end to strengthen up the supervision? Such as making in mandatory for any physician that supervises a np, be on site so many hours a week, review so many charts, be actively participating in the nps practice?because right now the minimum supervision is a fricking joke, and is "on paper" only and is no more than an annual meeting of the 2 parties and a monthly fee, so if the medical board can not control the NPs, they can control the Mds that supervise them
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1945 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:38 am to
Can you change the title to accurately reflect what the bill really is? It's not a scope of practice expansion. Just removes the CPA for those who qualify.
Posted by chadg
The Avoyelles Parish
Member since Dec 2007
2878 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Can you change the title to accurately reflect what the bill really is? It's not a scope of practice expansion. Just removes the CPA for those who qualify.


Because that is what they are campaigning. That this will expand scope of practice. Which is a flat out lie, among others that they are telling to our legislators.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:31 am to
It is a scope of practice expansion

Yes the doctor wants to see you

Free eye exam for you in Oakdale

The medical board has tried stuff to improve it and the nurses do not want those things to pass



Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:31 am to
Go read their websites
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:31 am to
Hey did you go to school for a long time?
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17881 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:34 am to
quote:

medical board has tried stuff to improve it and the nurses do not want those things to pass



Only by trying to restrict the nps, the medical board can very easily restrict the Mds that supervise them
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