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re: Dear educators, Gen Z here. Could you please teach us like it’s 2026?
Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:47 pm to Everyday Is Saturday
Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:47 pm to Everyday Is Saturday
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Elon Musk's Ad Astra school, a private institution for the children of SpaceX employees, rejects traditional schooling. Instead, it prioritizes project-based, interdisciplinary learning in STEM fields, fostering critical thinking and problem-solving. The school uses flexible, collaborative learning environments and continuous assessment rather than standardized tests.
While currently small-scale, its innovative approach has generated interest in potentially influencing broader educational reform, although scalability and inclusivity remain challenges
The description of the video you linked. So you're taking the example of a private school focusing on STEM, with a sample size made up of children of some of the smartest people on the planet, and saying "this can be used everywhere with everyone!" while also saying a universal approach is what's wrong.
I work with high schoolers and young adults that have chosen a specific path that interests them and they think they can work in. My contention is that the vast majority 1) lack elementary knowledge needed to succeed in those fields, 2) rely too heavily on technology, and 3) see no problem with any of this.
Your answer is to use artificial intelligence. I'm saying they need real intelligence first. I could read at 3 years old. My daughter can read at 3 years old. That's an exception, not a rule. In my opinion, there is a small percentage of kids that would be identified as smart enough to require specialized, tailored curriculum that maximizes their gifts. Not every kid is a genius, but every kid should be able to do basic math and be able to function in society without needing to be coddled and accommodated.
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:23 pm to StringedInstruments
I have two interns and I'm pretty sure one of them has used AI so consistently he hasn't ingested a modicum of knowledge. Can't ask questions, can't answer them either.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:30 pm to StringedInstruments
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:52 pm to stuckintexas
I attach the link to illustrate new ways of thinking about / methods for how we educate and new potential horizon for future. I think it is well past time to reinvent how we educate our populace. It is too one-sized-fits-all, as if all humans are alike.
I hear your point on gaps in the foundation / fundamentals. AI won’t solve gaps in social gaps / parenting. But applying new way of thinking to pedagogy with intent to close the gap created by the root causes, is worthwhile forward thinking.
Defending the status quo…don’t.
I hear your point on gaps in the foundation / fundamentals. AI won’t solve gaps in social gaps / parenting. But applying new way of thinking to pedagogy with intent to close the gap created by the root causes, is worthwhile forward thinking.
Defending the status quo…don’t.
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 12:01 am
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:35 am to Everyday Is Saturday
The fricking irony that you use a Craptube video to teach. That's been the method in a lot of Texas districts in 2022l IN CLASS.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:44 am to AllDayEveryDay
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I have two interns and I'm pretty sure one of them has used AI so consistently he hasn't ingested a modicum of knowledge. Can't ask questions, can't answer them either.
Fire him. Seriously. Why keep someone like that around? Better he start realizing now that he’s not going to be successful in this role and find one suited for him.
Even if it hurts his wittle feelings.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:53 am to StringedInstruments
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We are often lectured at for 50 minutes straight, or even 75 minutes, but we simply don’t have that attention span
If I was that teacher I’d tell them it sounds more like a you problem ..
Posted on 5/16/26 at 8:06 am to StringedInstruments
School and teachers isn't the problem.
Of the Gen Z-ers I've worked with, their largest issue is a lot of them have been enabled and coddled by their parents because of living during COVID and an age of nonstop screen time. They struggle to make phone calls, interact outside of their bubble. They don't want to do the hard, mentally strenuous work because they just want to rely on AI and don't understand the mechanisms behind a lot of things.
bullshite. They're too busy trying to ChatGPT their way out of everything. Their brains ARE lazy. And it's their own doing (facilitated by their parents).
And now that you have teachers that are like "Nah, we're banning electronics and getting back to pen/paper" they and their parents are freaking the frick out.
Of the Gen Z-ers I've worked with, their largest issue is a lot of them have been enabled and coddled by their parents because of living during COVID and an age of nonstop screen time. They struggle to make phone calls, interact outside of their bubble. They don't want to do the hard, mentally strenuous work because they just want to rely on AI and don't understand the mechanisms behind a lot of things.
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As soon as we learned how to type, we no longer needed an expert to answer our questions. Doing so much of our learning independently, without much expert guidance, has made us efficient problem-solvers, but we often opt for the simplest answer rather than thinking deeply. It’s not that we are incapable of thinking deeply, or that we are dumb; it’s that some of us were never taught how to think critically and have never had to do it.
bullshite. They're too busy trying to ChatGPT their way out of everything. Their brains ARE lazy. And it's their own doing (facilitated by their parents).
And now that you have teachers that are like "Nah, we're banning electronics and getting back to pen/paper" they and their parents are freaking the frick out.
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 8:08 am
Posted on 5/16/26 at 8:11 am to Gravitiger
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These are college students. Their parents are likely a little (but not necessarily a whole lot) older than that.
If they're 17-18, lets assume their parents are maybe 45 on average. That's very end of Gen X/older Millennial (Gen X is 1965-80, Millennial 81-96).
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 8:12 am
Posted on 5/16/26 at 8:23 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:The average age of a college student, especially in May, is not 17-18. It's more like 20-21, which using your math would make the parents 48. This also assumes they are all their parents' first children in college.
If they're 17-18, lets assume their parents are maybe 45 on average. That's very end of Gen X/older Millennial (Gen X is 1965-80, Millennial 81-96).
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 8:26 am
Posted on 5/16/26 at 8:32 am to Gravitiger
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The average age of a college student, especially in May, is not 17-18. It's more like 20-21, which using your math would make the parents 48. This also assumes they are all their parents' first children in college.
No. My math is correct.
The mean age of mothers in 2000 was 24.9 years old (in 2005 it was 25.2 years old). If their child is 21 today, that mother is 45-46 years old.
A 45 year old was born in 1981 and is the oldest Millennial (started with births in 1980). If they're 46-48, they're the youngest of Gen X.
You responded to the statement:
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seems like younger Gen X and older millennials are really, really bad at parenting
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These are college students. Their parents are likely a little (but not necessarily a whole lot) older than that.
GreatLakes was correct in that those parents are eldest Millennials and early Gen X.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 9:13 am to Gravitiger
I’m 49 and my wife is 48. We have a 21 year old who graduated in December. His group of 5 closest friends all have parents around the same age and similar family dynamics.
None of those 5 kids are anything at all like what was described in the article in the original post. In fact, they are all impressive young men who will likely be successful in their lives and careers.
Our son- double major in finance and marketing. Current grad student (MBA)
Friend #1- engineering student
Friend #2- aviation maintenance technical degree. He already has a big boy job at a major airport making nearly $50 per hour as a 21 year old.
Friend #3- economics student
Friend #4- accounting major with plans for CPA.
There have always been above average, average, and below average kids, and there always will be. Most of it has to do with how they are raised. If you raise them to be soft and lazy, they probably will turn out that way. If you raise them with expectations of being successful, then there is a high likelihood of that happening.
None of those 5 kids are anything at all like what was described in the article in the original post. In fact, they are all impressive young men who will likely be successful in their lives and careers.
Our son- double major in finance and marketing. Current grad student (MBA)
Friend #1- engineering student
Friend #2- aviation maintenance technical degree. He already has a big boy job at a major airport making nearly $50 per hour as a 21 year old.
Friend #3- economics student
Friend #4- accounting major with plans for CPA.
There have always been above average, average, and below average kids, and there always will be. Most of it has to do with how they are raised. If you raise them to be soft and lazy, they probably will turn out that way. If you raise them with expectations of being successful, then there is a high likelihood of that happening.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 9:16 am to BluegrassBelle
The vast majority of students in college do not have millenial parents. Period.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 9:17 am to StringedInstruments
Cliffs: Yes we're retarded, please respect that.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 9:21 am to LemmyLives
Texas ISDs are THE epitome of mass production, very one sized fits all (and teach to the test design) in our kids’ experiences.
That’s not irony. Thats a fact.
Time to reimagine what education can be.
That’s not irony. Thats a fact.
Time to reimagine what education can be.
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 9:22 am
Posted on 5/16/26 at 9:25 am to Gravitiger
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Squarely Gen X.
I bet there is a huge amount of attitude difference between Gen X women that are heavy consumers of social media content and which aren't. That, and the more affluent they are, the more they parent like pussies.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:36 pm to StringedInstruments
Education is in flux right now. Most are trying to teach like AI doesn't exist, but it clearly does. And every kid who's in 6th grade or higher is using the absolute shite out of it.
I don't know what the answer is but any of these schools that are relying on McGraw Hill teaching programs from 3-4+ years ago are fricking up.
AI is a tool. Teach them but accept that it's going to be here forever.
I don't know what the answer is but any of these schools that are relying on McGraw Hill teaching programs from 3-4+ years ago are fricking up.
AI is a tool. Teach them but accept that it's going to be here forever.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 1:38 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Cream rises to the top I guess
Nope, not always. Circumstances can absolutely screw people over no matter how talented or hardworking they are. One of the cold hard realities of life.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 2:12 pm to StringedInstruments
She just doesn’t get it…
Professors are there to make bank while doing as little as possible.
It is an academic grift.
The professor’s know this.
That is why they don’t want there to be any changes.
Besides, college isn’t about academics by-in-large, but rather it is about indoctrination.
The writer of the article is spot on concerning methodology, but ignorant as to why change is highly unlikely.
Professors are there to make bank while doing as little as possible.
It is an academic grift.
The professor’s know this.
That is why they don’t want there to be any changes.
Besides, college isn’t about academics by-in-large, but rather it is about indoctrination.
The writer of the article is spot on concerning methodology, but ignorant as to why change is highly unlikely.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 3:14 pm to jimmy the leg
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college isn’t about academics
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by-in-large
Clearly.
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