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re: Dayton, OH bar mass shooting - 10 dead, 27 wounded

Posted on 8/5/19 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 6:36 pm to
Yep. The ignorant make perceptions solely on the look.

"Ohhh it looks warlike"
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
9944 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 6:37 pm to
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weapon of war


Anytime some idiot mentions this, the first things I think of is a tank, an attack helicopter, a warhead missle, an A-10 Warthog. A gun is the last thing I think about when I hear war. frick you. I want a tomahawk missle now.
Posted by CoeJ
Member since Oct 2010
1887 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:12 pm to
There's no ignorance in its intended use. It's to inflict serious damage with semi automatic fire and a high capacity magazine. Y'all can cry semantics all you want. People are dying and the clear answer is to remove access. fricking morons.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297141 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:13 pm to
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Y'all can cry semantics all you want.


It's not semantics. It's a bigass difference.

Don't be ignorant and overlying emotional

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People are dying and the clear answer is to remove access. fricking morons.


If that's your solution, you are a moron. Access will never be denied, it will just go to the black market

It's like you never learned anything from prohibition or the war on drugs
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 7:16 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53109 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:17 pm to
A miniscule amount of murders are committed with rifles. Shotguns, fists and feet and knives all individually account for more deaths annually.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73250 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:18 pm to
Well, someone is most certainly crying...

Cut back on the Lifetime movies and box wine baw
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297141 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:21 pm to
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A miniscule amount of murders are committed with rifles.


True. Most are even committed with handguns owned illegally.

We have a problem of overdrugged, socially inept young people who feel the only way to get attention is to do something radical. The answer isn't to ban stuff. That doesn't work
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53109 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:23 pm to
A lot of bad laws could be written out of raw emotions and good intentions. I think these incidents are terrible. I don't think banning a rifle will really make much of a difference in their frequency either.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:24 pm to
Are the OT Soi Bois still trying to blame this on Drumpf and the imaginary White Nationalist Incels who congregate on 8chan?
Posted by CoeJ
Member since Oct 2010
1887 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:25 pm to
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Access will never be denied, it will just go to the black market 


It's like you don't know how black markets work. 21 year old political sycophants likely can't afford black market assault rifles.

You see black markets mean things are illegal or very hard to attain which makes them very expensive. It's basic economics really.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297141 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:26 pm to
Banning rifles makes women and soyboys feel like someone is "doing something" when in reality it's just authoritarian, symbolic false security.

"Doing something" makes the problem worse in many cases. We are dealing with social dysfunction here
Posted by CoeJ
Member since Oct 2010
1887 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:27 pm to
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True. Most are even committed with handguns owned illegally


We're not talking about one off homicides and unloading 8 rounds of a 9mm into a crowd. We're talking about the ability to mow down 46 people in 6 fricking minutes with rifle rounds.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53109 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:28 pm to
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We're not talking about one off homicides and unloading 8 rounds of a 9mm into a crowd. We're talking about the ability to mow down 46 people in 6 fricking minutes with rifle rounds.

So a guy couldn't walk into a bar with a couple of Glock 17 handguns and do this? The Virginia Tech shooter killed 33 with pistols.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297141 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:30 pm to
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We're not talking about one off homicides and unloading 8 rounds of a 9mm into a crowd. We're talking about the ability to mow down 46 people in 6 fricking minutes with rifle rounds.


I can do that with one of these in each hand



Or worse with black market magazines.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297141 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:30 pm to
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So a guy couldn't walk into a bar with a couple of Glock 17 handguns and do this? The Virginia Tech shooter killed 33 with pistols.


Absolutely

But rifles!
Posted by CoeJ
Member since Oct 2010
1887 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:31 pm to
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So a guy couldn't walk into a bar with a couple of Glock 17 handguns and do this? The Virginia Tech shooter killed 33 with pistols


You think a person could walk into a bar and reload two handguns a minimum of twice, kill 22 with accuracy, wound 24 more before anyone was able to stop him?

Are you retarded?
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:32 pm to
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We're not talking about one off homicides and unloading 8 rounds of a 9mm into a crowd.


Why not? That is how the overwhelming majority of murders happen. Oh, it is about the sensationalism over substance. carry on.
Posted by CoeJ
Member since Oct 2010
1887 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:33 pm to
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I can do that with one of these in each hand 


K.
Posted by CoeJ
Member since Oct 2010
1887 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:33 pm to
It's terrorism over homicide. By definition. Dumb frick.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53109 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:33 pm to
You can buy 100 round Glock mags. I may have posted this is this thread or the El Paso one but the only recent mass shooting that I can think of where pistols wouldn't have easily worked was Las Vegas. He could have done plenty of damage with a hunting rifle and a bunch of mags though.
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