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re: Dallas PD Guyger Trial: Guilty of Murder..Sentence to 10years in prison
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:11 am to baldona
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:11 am to baldona
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Pretty sure its been shown that this complex didn't allow any outside decorations. I believe this was a mass owned place with everyone entering their units from the inside hallway. Not somewhere that there's an outdoor breezeway with entrance mats, windows, etc.
Basically it looked like a hotel.
Ah, didn't know that and the certainly changes things.
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:12 am to MoarKilometers
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I got a higher bond for a victimless crime that carried a max of 5 years,
1) I never said that the system was perfect, or that there aren’t inconsistencies.
2) This statement demonstrates that you still don’t get the concept.
It’s very conceivable that a cop who shoots someone wrongly is less of a risk of committing further crimes and/or less of a risk of not showing up to court than a drug cultivator.
The particulars matter.
What’s the underlying nature of the crime, not just the charge.
What’s the person’s background? Married with kids? Homeowner? Age?
What’s their criminal history if any? It’s safe to assume that the cop has never been convicted and probably has never been arrested.
None of that means anything regarding the seriousness of the crime, except to the extent that it effects possible jail time and likelihood of nonappearance.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:13 am to Mr Clean
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Yeah, I want to see someone go unpunished for wrongfully killing a man because I’m a self-serving prick
Jesus man it was just a joke
ETA what’s with the aggression? are u on a bad roid cycle or something?
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 10:27 am
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:24 am to SHOtime Tiger
What kind of plea would the DA have offered at this point? I'm guessing she thinks she is innocent and is going to court to be found innocent?
If you take the fact that she is a cop out of this, I'm not sure something like 5-10 wouldn't be fair? I'll say something like 8-15 or 10-20 since she was a cop?
I just think this was enough of an accident that I don't see her doing 15+ years? Its very unlikely for her to do something like this again (well especially since she won't be able to own a gun).
If you take the fact that she is a cop out of this, I'm not sure something like 5-10 wouldn't be fair? I'll say something like 8-15 or 10-20 since she was a cop?
I just think this was enough of an accident that I don't see her doing 15+ years? Its very unlikely for her to do something like this again (well especially since she won't be able to own a gun).
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:26 am to Jimbeaux
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It’s very conceivable that a cop who shoots someone wrongly is less of a risk of committing further crimes and/or less of a risk of not showing up to court than a drug cultivator.
The particulars matter.
Yeah, particulars like shooting someone carries a much longer possible sentence which would be likely to induce someone to flee.
You're agreeing that she got a smaller bond as she is a cop, which is BS.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:36 am to BuckyCheese
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You're agreeing that she got a smaller bond as she is a cop, which is BS.
It’s not “because she’s a cop.” But the fact that she’s a cop tells us a few things: she’s employed in a position of trust and she probably has no criminal history.
You might be punishing her BECAUSE she’s a cop.
Let’s assume for a moment that she’s not a cop, just a bank teller with a concealed carry permit who was returning home and made a terrible mistake.
She deserves to be punished for her costly mistake, but that doesn’t mean that she poses a significant risk of danger or non-appearance.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:39 am to Jimbeaux
Her being a cop has no bearing on the case to me, because SHE WAS OFF DUTY at the time it occurred. She was just a private citizen at that point in time.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:41 am to SD Tider
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It’s easier than you think. You get in an elevator, hit the button for your floor, then check your texts or something like that without noticing that somebody else accidentally pressed the button for another floor, or maybe you just mistakenly pressed the wrong button without thinking. The door opens and you walk out without looking up, same exact carpet and wall color, same floor plan, same everything. The only difference is the numbers on the door, but you hardly ever look at them. As I mentioned, it’s a pretty frequent occurrence at big apartment complexes.
No it is not no matter how many times you repeat it, seems you are the only dipshit here that regularly walks into others homes.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:41 am to The Spleen
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Her being a cop has no bearing on the case to me, because SHE WAS OFF DUTY at the time it occurred. She was just a private citizen at that point in time.
I don't disagree. But I think where others' disagree is that if she was a cop she should have had better training to analyse her surroundings and not be so quick on the trigger. She should have been trained to realize it wasn't her apartment and that he didn't need to be shot.
I have a hard time disagreeing with that too.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:44 am to baldona
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it was supposedly an accident. We still don't know it was a complete accident f
Whatever it was it was not an accident, people throw that word around far too freely.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:44 am to cave canem
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No it is not no matter how many times you repeat it, seems you are the only dip shite here that regularly walks into others homes.
"According to Guyger, she was returning home from a double shift and mistakenly entered Jean's apartment after she parked on the fourth floor of her apartment complex, instead of the third floor where her apartment is located. She walked to the apartment on the fourth floor directly above her own."
You my friend are ignorant if you can't see this happening. You normally park and walk straight into your apt. Parking lot is extra busy, so she has to go up a floor. Walks into the apt complex and goes straight to the room she normally does.
Extremely conceivable.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:47 am to baldona
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Fox 4 Dallas : Prosecutors say they plan to show that Amber Guyger intentionally shot Botham Jean and the shooting was not justified while arguing that her texts and calls that night to her Dallas Police partner, whom she was in a sexual relationship with, should be admissible evidence.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:48 am to Restomod
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Fox 4 Dallas: Her defense attorneys arguing that the state is trying to show her in a “bad light”, questioning how you could understand someone’s mindset or level of fatigue (records show she worked 13 hours that day) by viewing their text messages.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:48 am to baldona
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Extremely conceivable.
It is conceivable she thought his radio was too loud and shot him to shut him up.
It is conceivable she did not like his girlfriend.
WTF does conceivable have to do with it.
How many other peoples homes have you ever barged into during the night mistakenly? Zero is the answer for 99.999% of the US population.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:52 am to cave canem
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How many other peoples homes have you ever barged into during the night mistakenly? Zero is the answer for 99.999% of the US population.
Have you ever been to a college apt complex, dorm, or big city apt building? If you are talking about a home in a suburb I might agree. Apartments are different.
I've probably knocked on the wrong door 5-10 times.
Gone to the wrong hotel room? 5-10 times.
At night when tired and colors aren't as bright, its pretty easy to do.
I don't know what happened at the door, how she got in. But knocking or attempting to unlock the wrong apt is very common.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:55 am to cave canem
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How many other peoples homes have you ever barged into during the night mistakenly? Zero is the answer for 99.999% of the US population.
Not only that, but not noticing different furniture, decoration, smell, etc and instead the first reaction is to open up.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:56 am to baldona
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But knocking or attempting to unlock the wrong apt is very common.
And she would have had the same knowledge. Yet she chose to shoot first and figure things out later.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:57 am to baldona
I've lived in complexes like this and at least once that I remember tried putting my key in the wrong door. The way the parking garages are, you usually walk from the garage to your apartment. Get home late and park a floor higher up, you just go into auto pilot.
So that part I get.
But ALL of this could have been prevented if the dumb bitch wasn't so trigger happy. It's the fricking shoot first mentality.
She NEVER even went inside her apartment. She could have easily retreated and called the police. But no, she goes Rambo and shoots a dude.
frick her. Lock her up because she was too stupid to know what to do with a deadly weapon.
So that part I get.
But ALL of this could have been prevented if the dumb bitch wasn't so trigger happy. It's the fricking shoot first mentality.
She NEVER even went inside her apartment. She could have easily retreated and called the police. But no, she goes Rambo and shoots a dude.
frick her. Lock her up because she was too stupid to know what to do with a deadly weapon.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:08 am to Restomod
I don’t think they’ll be able to prove she intentionally shot him in the sense that she intentionally saw him, recognized him, and took aim unless they have some evidence we don’t know about.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:10 am to TigersSEC2010
Depends on what is in those text messages she sent to her partner. Might show she knew exactly who it was.
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