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re: Creationism and Evolution Questions

Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:05 pm to
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What is your claim about the origin of life?
I have no claims about pertaining to the origin of life. I explained that above.
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:11 pm to
Baw, you might as well put out a signal for the crazy Prots to come out. They have to come up with their own interpretations. I’ll just lean on the Magisterium.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7909 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:47 pm to
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In science class, in.. It was 7th or 8th grade.. so I guess that's jr high. One day our science teacher was out and the priest took her class for that day and I remember everyone being surprised when he said he "obviously" supports evolution. We are constantly evolving so I don't know why it’s a hard concept for people to understand.

The issue isn’t that people don’t understand evolution. Most people accept that variation and adaptation happen within species. That’s not the debate. The real question is about macroevolution, the idea that one kind of organism can eventually become a completely different kind. That kind of large-scale change hasn’t been directly observed.

Take bacteria. Some reproduce every 10 minutes. We’ve been studying certain strains for over 130 years, which adds up to millions of generations. To put that into perspective, humans have a generation every 20 to 25 years. So those bacteria have gone through the equivalent of tens of millions of years of human evolution in just over a century. And yet, they remain bacteria. They adapt, mutate, and even develop resistance, but they don’t evolve into anything fundamentally different.

And here’s the thing: if macroevolution were true, we would expect simple organisms like bacteria to show drastic changes faster than complex organisms like mammals. They reproduce rapidly, mutate constantly, and exist in huge populations, conditions that should make evolutionary shifts happen more quickly if the theory holds. But even with all those advantages, we still haven’t seen a single example of them turning into anything other than more bacteria.

It’s not about rejecting all change. It’s about looking at the actual evidence and asking honest questions: If this process really drives the origin of all species, why haven’t we seen even one clear example of it happening in the simplest and fastest-reproducing life forms on earth?
Posted by Prosecuted Collins
The Farm
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 7:12 pm to
Obvious cripple alter
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119887 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 7:34 pm to
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What did we "evolve" from, Bird Brain?


Early primates. Did you not take science in school?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2059 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 7:43 pm to
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Baw, you might as well put out a signal for the crazy Prots to come out.

They have to come up with their own interpretations. I’ll just lean on the Magisterium.


So in other words you'll rely on memorizing the Magisterium account of "Creation" vs"Evo" and let it do your critical thinking for you?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2059 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 7:49 pm to
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What did we "evolve" from, Bird Brain?



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Early primates. Did you not take science in school?


Oh boy.

So, "muh-Science" is again the answer to all life's great questions?

What does "the science" say about these claims of "early primates"? What does science say about how a "early primate" DNA and its every system could somehow magically switched sequence?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2059 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 7:51 pm to
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It’s about looking at the actual evidence and asking honest questions: If this process really drives the origin of all species, why haven’t we seen even one clear example of it happening in the simplest and fastest-reproducing life forms on earth?


Precisely.

You're a breath of fresh air and common sense in this thread.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2059 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 7:53 pm to
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Maybe god put men’s rib back after dudes just sat around all day sucking their own cocks?




Give GayHub a break.
Posted by ParIV
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2004
2167 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 7:53 pm to
Not hating, but so does ignorance.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2059 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:12 pm to
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1. How do Creationists reconcile its incestuous design (brothers and sisters required to make babies to create the world’s population)?


We all probably considered your question at one time or another. Until we better understand Scripture and the pre-Flood World.

In Genesis, God commanded Adam and Eve and the first generations of mankind to, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth".

In that early world scenario, incest was not a violation of God’s statutory law because no law existed yet; plus humanity's genetic line and DNA was still largely unblemished and strong. People were routinely living till 900+ years ago according the Genesis. (it was post Flood that God wound down our lifespan to 120 years. Over the many generations our DNA has been corrupted and regressive.

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2. How do Evolutionists rationalize the (incomprehensibly) the amazing design of life (when I think of all of the chemistry, physics and humanness in this system of life that enables me to post this and you to respond (from existence of photons and wavelengths of light to your occipital lobe of brain existing to accept it, ascribe meaning to it and your human body and experience to respond to it -

I ask - just random chance, aye?). How dat is?


You're 100% right -- we are a miraculous design of systems.

There are exactly ZERO odds that man, our spirit, all life, and all systems that work with absolute precision and purpose is "universal splat" or "random happenstance".

God is our Creator. And how else would anyone also explain the Fibonacci sequence of life?

Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2059 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:22 pm to
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As genetic science advances it indicates greater evidence we all came from Adam and Eve.


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Just doing skin grafts on cheetahs disproves the stories.


Just what I was gonna say.

Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2059 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:26 pm to
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There’s more evidence to support evolution than evidence to support god’s existence, which is zero by the way.


Really? Who knew?

Cite just one example of evolutionary "proof".

While you're at at, how does one "disprove" the existence of God?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119887 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:32 pm to
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Oh boy.

So, "muh-Science" is again the answer to all life's great questions?

What does "the science" say about these claims of "early primates"? What does science say about how a "early primate" DNA and its every system could somehow magically switched sequence?


You ask what did we evolve from. The answer is early primates. If you want me to go further then the answer is likely a single cell. The earth is over 4 billion years old.

So evolution doesn't make doesn't sound logical, but a creator who put 1 man and 1 woman on earth to then populate the world does?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2059 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:34 pm to
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1. Fossil Record
Transitional fossils show intermediate stages between different groups of organisms (e.g., Tiktaalik between fish and amphibians, Archaeopteryx between dinosaurs and birds).


Archaeopteryx is proven to be a hoax. Bogus.

There are exactly ZERO "transitional fossils" that "show how intermediate stages between different groups of organisms".

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Conclusion

The evidence for evolution is overwhelming and comes from diverse fields that all converge on the same conclusion: life on Earth has evolved over billions of years through processes like natural selection, mutation, and genetic drift. Evolution is the unifying theory of biology, much like gravity is in physics.


Poppycock. Balderdash. Complete nonsense from ChatGPT.

The rest of its supposed "support" for "Evolution", presumption, assumption, fantasy and wish-casting whiffs as real world "proof".



Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2059 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:41 pm to
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You ask what did we evolve from. The answer is early primates. If you want me to go further then the answer is likely a single cell.


That's quite a leap, isn't it?

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The earth is over 4 billion years old.


That's what the "science" alleged dating methodologies claims. But is it true? Or more importantly, how is dating beyond Carbon-Dating even veritably quantifiable?

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So evolution doesn't make doesn't sound logical, but a creator who put 1 man and 1 woman on earth to then populate the world does?


Absolutely.

There's at least an account and explanation of and by the Divine Creator.

Every material (or spiritual) thing we actually see, touch, hear and sense is a miracle any way we look at life, isn't it? Meanwhile we can only imagine or project "Evolution", "4B years", or "transitional" species.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2059 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:47 pm to
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Science can try to explain evolution, even without real proof.

But how can they explain the spirtual nature of humans.


BOOM
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37351 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:07 pm to
How does evolution attempt to disprove the spirituality of man? The theory exists entirely in the physical world and attempts only to explain the variety of life on this planet. It is entirely silent on who or what put those mechanisms in place.

Eta- more to the point: what about the theory do you think conflicts or is in opposition with a divine creator, which I assume you must believe it does.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 9:18 pm
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1611 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:08 pm to
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Give GayHub a break.


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EphesianArmor


Hahahaha, I bet you think god gave you those feelings as a test. Be strong, bro
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8779 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:14 pm to
It’s entirely possible that everything you’ve been taught to believe is evidence, is actually a lie. And creationism is all true. Also possible tha evolution is dead right, or completely wrong. Given that we don’t know where all the wonders in Egypt came from for certain, I’m keeping all possibilities open.
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