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re: Crawfish farmers are making a killing off disaster relief program.

Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:05 am to
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5866 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:05 am to
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I know the game


Obviously by your post you don’t know anything about the crawfish industry
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36534 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:11 am to
I do. I know everyone was forced to go to being paid by check and receiving a 1099, just like crabbers, shrimpers and oyster fishermen, because of rampant tax cheating

I know a few buyers control prices and that they've figured out they can charge nearly whatever they want to ship seafood out of state, raising in state prices.

I know that every year, early in the season, there is some weather event that attempts to temper expectations, and thus raise prices, which magically corrects itself after Good Friday.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4403 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:13 am to
Honestly I’ve made money more years than I’ve lost money. You need to ask different people. Whoever your asking my just be lying to you also. Some years are good some years are great, some years are horrible and you lose money. That’s farming for you. I enjoy what I do. You take the good with the bad. No one is forcing me to do this.
Posted by HogPharmer
Member since Jun 2022
3374 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:15 am to
Are they getting a 77% raise?
Posted by White Bear
AT WORK
Member since Jul 2014
17157 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:18 am to
Just buy them oriental crawfish baw.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36534 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:20 am to
I ain't really mad at them, just stop pissing on my leg and telling me it's raining
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 10:21 am
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
45794 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:20 am to
So, they’re no better than welfare fraudsters
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5866 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:24 am to
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know a few buyers control prices and that they've figured out they can charge nearly whatever they want to ship seafood out of state, raising in state prices


Totally false
Tell me why 20/22/23 prices in Feb were lower than the 10 year avg if they can charge whatever they want
Tell me why on Holy Week in 2022 the price was the lowest is been on that week in 15 years
Tell my why 21/24 were higher

Yea shipping out of state has caused demand to go up but crawfish acres have doubled in the last 20 years. The price on avg follows a similar curve pretty much every year
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4403 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:27 am to
Yeah the farmers who work year round are no better than unemployed welfare fraudsters…. You and loogaroo make a good pair together y’all might have an IQ of 50
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39200 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:36 am to
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Are they getting a 77% raise?


It's not so much a raise as it is some are double dipping. Most ended up fishing last season and making some money. It was just a couple months late.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36534 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:38 am to
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Tell me why 20/22/23 prices in Feb were lower than the 10 year avg if they can charge whatever they want
Tell me why on Holy Week in 2022 the price was the lowest is been on that week in 15 years




Gee what was going on in Feb 2020 that could have hindered prices? Cherry picking dates is a bold strategy
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39200 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:40 am to
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Yeah the farmers who work year round are no better than unemployed welfare fraudsters…. You and loogaroo make a good pair together y’all might have an IQ of 50


Could you continue to farm without al the subsidies?
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4403 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:45 am to
Yes I could keep farming. What do you mean all the subsidies. I got a Covid subsidy which every industry got something and then the ELAP subsidy. What other subsidies do you think we’ve gotten?
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5866 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:46 am to
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Gee what was going on in Feb 2020 that could have hindered prices? Cherry picking dates is a bold strategy


lol you’re a clown
Covid didn’t affect prices until Mid-March
Posted by Classy Doge
Member since Nov 2021
4454 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:54 am to
As usual, another clown show in a crawfish thread. The same old thing over and over on here.

If these posters had a clue it would be somewhat bearable to try and educate them. But most know everything there is to know already. And don't know shite.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36534 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:58 am to
Crawfish farmers get bent out of shape when you call into question their honor, but then they all claim it was someone else that caused the IRS to crack down on them because of the rampant under-reporting of income. It's been mentioned a few times, but not one person has addressed it.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 10:58 am
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1151 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:02 am to
Most of the crawfish people I know are strictly cash based. The don't report anything to anyone. How do they show their production numbers from the last three years when they never reported anything? Soybean, corn and other grain farmers sell through a grain elevator and their sales are relatively easy to audit. The grain companies pay with checks and there is a paper trail. Crawfish people tend to get cash from buyers with no paper trail.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36534 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:03 am to
right on time lol
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4403 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:04 am to
Most of the people you know have 500+ acres ponds or 5 acre ponds? I get a check for everything I sell. Therefore I get taxed on everything I produce. Same thing with my rice.
People that crawfish for a hobby get paid in cash. People that crawfish for a living aren’t getting paid in cash
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 11:08 am
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36534 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:07 am to
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I get a check for everything I sell.



Yeah, since when? I am willing to bet quite a bit of money that this is within the last 10 years



ETA: keep in mind, I know folks in seafood, specifically crawfish and crabs
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 11:08 am
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