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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/1/20 at 2:03 pm to Lsut81
Posted on 3/1/20 at 2:03 pm to Lsut81
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In my mind, anything is better than nothing. If I have the option of having a run of the mill mask in an effort to attempt to protect against droplets and nothing, I’ll take the something.
Can’t say I disagree with you. I bought a few N95s several weeks back, including small ones for my kids. I was “crazy” then. Look who’s laughing now.
Well, not really.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 2:21 pm to S1C EM
3M N95 masks are selling for $25 a piece on eBay at the moment. Looks like I may have to list my 10 pack on there soon
Posted on 3/1/20 at 2:29 pm to crews12
Hospitals Short on Ventilators if Bird Flu Hits
We’ve been knowing about this problem for almost 15 years.
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Right now, there are 105,000 ventilators, and even during a regular flu season, about 100,000 are in use. In a worst-case human pandemic, according to the national preparedness plan issued by President Bush in November, the country would need as many as 742,500.
A typical hospital ventilator costs $30,000, and hospitals, operating on thin profit margins, say they cannot afford to buy and store hundreds of units that may never be used. Cheaper alternatives can be deployed in a crisis, but doctors say they are grossly inadequate to deal with a flu pandemic.
Congress authorized only $3.8 billion of the $7.1 billion that Mr. Bush requested for flu preparedness, and nearly 90 percent of it is earmarked for vaccines and the antiviral drug Tamiflu. Buying enough ventilators for a flu outbreak like that of 1918 would cost $18 billion.
The federal preparedness plan leaves preparations for medical care up to state and city health officials, but the only government agency that amasses ventilators is the Strategic National Stockpile, created in 1999 by the disease centers to store medicine and equipment for use in a terrorist attack or a disaster. But the agency has only 4,000 to 5,000 ventilators, according to a federal official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of a dispute between government health and security agencies about whether the size of the stockpile ought to be kept secret.
There is also a shortage of trained personnel, said Dr. Michael T. Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota.
"Ask any respiratory therapist -- you have to adjust the gases, the pressures," he said. "We don't have enough trained people to maintain them."
In a recent emergency drill, said Dr. John L. Hick, a professor of emergency medicine at the Mayo Medical School in Minnesota, the 27 hospitals in his area could come up with only 16 extra ventilators when faced with a hypothetical outbreak of 400 cases of pneumonic plague.
In a national emergency, he said, "it will come down to some really thin cuts on a scoring system."
"Families are going to be told, 'We have to take your loved one off the ventilator even though, if we could keep him on it for a week, he might be fine,' " he went on. "How do you think that's going to go over? It's going to be a nightmare."
Dräger Medical, a German company that is the world's largest maker of hospital ventilators, can double its assembly line capacity in a week, said Mandy Hartman, a vice president for marketing. In a year, that would add "more than 10,000" ventilators to the world supply, said Ms. Hartman, who declined to be more specific.
We’ve been knowing about this problem for almost 15 years.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 2:57 pm to GEAUXmedic
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BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk)
BREAKING: Italy reports 449 new cases of coronavirus and 5 new deaths, raising total to 1,577 cases and 34 dead LINK
Posted on 3/1/20 at 2:58 pm to GEAUXmedic
Leaked email from a hospital in Washington:


Posted on 3/1/20 at 2:59 pm to momentoftruth87
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NEW: France reports 30 new cases of coronavirus, raising total to 130
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Iceland reports 2nd case of coronavirus; government says everyone returning from Italy should self-quarantine for 14 days
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Morocco will postpone sports and cultural events over fears of coronavirus, according to state-run media; there are no confirmed cases in the country - Reuters
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BREAKING: Scotland reports first case of coronavirus
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NEW: MotoGP says the Grand Prix of Qatar has been canceled due to coronavirus
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A patient dies in Brazil who was isolated due to suspected coronavirus
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#Iran to build special hospital for #coronavirus patients in 3 days: Official
#IranFightsCorona
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CORONAVIRUS CASE CONFIRMED IN SOUTHERN MEXICAN STATE OF CHIAPAS, MEXICO'S FIFTH CASE -STATE HEALTH AUTHORITIES
This post was edited on 3/1/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 3/1/20 at 3:00 pm to GEAUXmedic
What is so shocking about that email?
That's straight from CDC website. We were all sent the updated CDC guidelines Friday.
That's straight from CDC website. We were all sent the updated CDC guidelines Friday.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 3:01 pm to lsunurse
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What is so shocking about that email?
That's straight from CDC website. We were all sent the updated CDC guidelines Friday.
Nothing? It's not supposed to be shocking.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 3:04 pm to GEAUXmedic
Gotcha...was just checking.
People need to calm down.
People need to calm down.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 3:04 pm to GEAUXmedic
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@BNODesk
11m
Spain reports 8 new cases of coronavirus, or 26 new cases so far today, raising total to 84; at least 5 people are in critical condition
Posted on 3/1/20 at 3:05 pm to lsunurse
Yeah, I was just sharing for those who don't know what the criteria is.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 3:07 pm to GEAUXmedic
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GEAUXmedic
Solid reporting baw
Posted on 3/1/20 at 3:13 pm to momentoftruth87
My wife's vet clinic is running out of masks already and can't get more because of dumbasses. It's yalls pets that are going to get coughed on during surgery. Idiots.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 3:14 pm to lsunurse
Well, optimally it would be nice to be able to test more widely for the purposes of being able to get a better handle on the scale of the problem in PNW. Lots of people are going to be sent out of the ER who probably have Covid but aren’t sick enough for admission. Going to skew our numbers an make effective quarantine harder
Posted on 3/1/20 at 3:16 pm to GEAUXmedic
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Italy reports 449 new cases of coronavirus and 5 new deaths, raising total to 1,577 cases
So Italy went from 1000 to 1500 overnight but Henan(1200), Hunan(1000), and Zhenjiang(1200) pretty much all unchanged this week? Did china’s sneezing etiquette change overnight?
Posted on 3/1/20 at 3:19 pm to deeprig9
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My wife's vet clinic is running out of masks already and can't get more because of dumbasses. It's yalls pets that are going to get coughed on during surgery. Idiots.
I posted in another thread that I met with a bunch of infection control nurses (like myself) from various other hospitals all over AZ Friday to discuss coronavirus.
One nurse is an IP(infection preventionist) for a dental group and she was saying her dentists are worried about running out of masks. Another IP mentioned that they have had random people running into their hospital...steal a box of masks from stands holding masks and purell at their entrances...and then run out.
Another said they have started locking up all their stock of N-95s because random people would see the boxes in a hallway outside a negative pressure room and just steal the box of them and walk out.
ETA: You are right, people are idiots though
This post was edited on 3/1/20 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 3/1/20 at 3:29 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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We’ve been knowing about this problem for almost 15 years.
Still will be turned to Trump’s fault.
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