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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:50 am to kywildcatfanone
Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:50 am to kywildcatfanone
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A US service member in Korea has become infected.
OR was this the dependent of a US service member who is probably also the surviving spouse of a now deceased US service member?
Several days ago, variations on a theme of "US service member" started to appear. All going back to a single case.
Why the difference in description? Sloppy journalism. We tried to find specifics. Age of the case is retired. No base assignment is given.
We'll probably never know, but I'd guess the sick person is the surviving Korean widow who went home to Korea after her husband's death to live well on his pension. If I were pushing it, I'd even guess that if she wasn't in the religious cult cluster, one of her family members was.
Pure speculation on my part. Feel free to ignore.
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:51 am to real turf fan
Stop bumping this thread.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:55 am to ctiger69
Why isn’t this thread stickied?
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:12 am to ctiger69
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Stop bumping this thread.
Nope
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:29 am to real turf fan
USFK tweeted yesterday that the patient is a 23 year old male assigned to Camp Carroll who had also been at other US installations recently.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:43 am to real turf fan
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OR was this the dependent of a US service member who is probably also the surviving spouse of a now deceased US service member?
Several days ago, variations on a theme of "US service member" started to appear. All going back to a single case.
Why the difference in description? Sloppy journalism. We tried to find specifics. Age of the case is retired. No base assignment is given.
We'll probably never know, but I'd guess the sick person is the surviving Korean widow who went home to Korea after her husband's death to live well on his pension. If I were pushing it, I'd even guess that if she wasn't in the religious cult cluster, one of her family members was.
Pure speculation on my part. Feel free to ignore.
You're off base, it's been confirmed not only to include his base, but the 2 other bases he had recently visited in S.k. (within the past week)
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:06 am to rds dc
Some new clinical findings are out and CFR is 2.3% overall and 50% for those that progress to critically ill.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:07 am to rds dc
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CFR is 2.3%
Case fatality ratio for those who aren't tracking, I wasn't initially.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 11:10 am
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:19 am to Mizzoufan26
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Case fatality ratio for those who aren't tracking, I wasn't initially.
Thanks for pointing that out, it's been used a lot in this thread. Also, CFR and mortality rate are different, so if you hear them on the news keep that in mind.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:21 am to Malik Agar
Reddit user daily roundup of how the coronavrius is affecting manufacturing mostly in China but also other Asian countries plus a little bit of other tidbits of information thrown in there
Today's daily economic roundup
Today's daily economic roundup
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:21 am to Malik Agar
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Where are you seeing this ?
This is a pretty good overview article from a couple of days ago LINK
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:23 am to rds dc
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50% for those that progress to critically ill.
This is pretty standard for patients that develop ARDS (almost all cases that become "critical") whether from the flu, pneumonia, or a virus like this.
The CFR of 2.3% is significantly higher than we are used to though (20-30 times greater than the flu)
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:25 am to rds dc
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Germany's health minister says the country is at the start of an epidemic, urges local officials to prepare for a pandemic - Welt
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:27 am to WaWaWeeWa
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This is pretty standard for patients that develop ARDS (almost all cases that become "critical") whether from the flu, pneumonia, or a virus like this.
The CFR of 2.3% is significantly higher than we are used to though (20-30 times greater than the flu)
Are people who have previously contracted pneumonia particularly susceptible to complications from CV?
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:30 am to upgrayedd
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Are people who have previously contracted pneumonia particularly susceptible to complications from CV?
I wouldn't think so, unless there is an underlying reason they got pneumonia in the first place such as a chronic disease like COPD.
The two biggest risk factors from the China data were age and chronic disease (cardiovascular disease, diabetes, etc.)
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:30 am to rds dc
Thank you (above) for the correction about the US serviceman. I found that eighteen Korean servicemen have also been infected.
Asean briefing for SE asia by date and by country (youngest on top oldest at bottom) indicates a lot more is happening than is getting reported by many media sources.
The breaks in the supplys for MFG are in some of the reports as are cruise ships turned away.
Asean briefing for SE asia by date and by country (youngest on top oldest at bottom) indicates a lot more is happening than is getting reported by many media sources.
The breaks in the supplys for MFG are in some of the reports as are cruise ships turned away.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:33 am to WaWaWeeWa
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This is pretty standard for patients that develop ARDS (almost all cases that become "critical") whether from the flu, pneumonia, or a virus like this.
The CFR of 2.3% is significantly higher than we are used to though (20-30 times greater than the flu)
Also, that article covers another study putting R0 at 2.3, which is pretty much in line with others are producing. I know the flu is a favorite comparison for this thread, so the 1918 pandemic is estimated at CFR 2.5% & RO 2.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:34 am to rds dc
quote:whoa
I know the flu is a favorite comparison for this thread, so the 1918 pandemic is estimated at CFR 2.5%
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:59 am to upgrayedd
$425M in World Bank catastrophe bonds set to default if coronavirus declared a pandemic by June
I find it crazy that investors are betting on this type of thing, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
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Investors betting big against catastrophic diseases are watching the World Health Organization closely as insurance bonds tied to whether the organization labels COVID-19 a pandemic are set to mature in June.
In 2017, the World Bank designed a new way to raise money: Pandemic Emergency Financing bonds. Over $425 million worth of such bonds, which bet against a global outbreak of infectious diseases and will default if WHO declares the coronavirus a pandemic, were sold by the World Bank in its first-ever issuance of catastrophe bonds. In the event of no pandemic, investors would be paid a healthy annualized return. Meanwhile, the World Bank could use the bonds to insure itself against the risk of a global outbreak.
I find it crazy that investors are betting on this type of thing, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
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