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Coronavirus % positive in Louisiana

Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:07 am
Posted by Maderan
Member since Feb 2005
881 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:07 am
Being driven higher by hospital groups only testing symptomatic patients again...Except from NOLA. Com article below is about Ochsner.

After changing protocols to only test symptomatic patients at urgent care clinics due to a shortage of tests, Thomas said it is working with Abbott Laboratories, a medical device company, to double testing capacity within the next four to six weeks.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19015 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:08 am to
And?
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:09 am to
No way hospitals are manipulating results for federal money!
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:15 am to
It’s being driven higher by counting repeat tests

They did 22,000 tests the other day. I promise you there aren’t 22,000 symptomatic people per day.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19015 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:16 am to
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I promise you


Well, I’m sold.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:17 am to
You can’t link the article?
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26701 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:22 am to
There's no rhyme or reason why they change their testing methods other than smoke and mirrors.


If they aren't seeing what they want to see, the LDH simply changes what it's looking for or how it categorizes it. Voila... instantly get what we're looking for.

It's why I havent changed a damn thing about what my day looks like. Louisiana has been and always will be corrupt.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38456 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:23 am to
But they aren’t limiting tests to only asymptomatic people. I’ve been tested twice in the last ten days and have never shown a symptom.

BR has massive drive thru testing sites set up, and asymptomatic people can get tested at those places as well as the urgent care clinics
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 8:25 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112659 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:31 am to
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And?
So when politicians use the "percent positive is increasing" as a reason to tighten lockdowns, while not using the same data sampling, its bullshite

That really needs to be explained to you?


This entire debacle has been a mess. We make decisions after decision on changing and inconsistent data that has no consistency. Its makes no sense at all what we are doing
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112659 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:32 am to
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But they aren’t limiting tests to only asymptomatic people
But here at ochsner, we are, as clearly stated by Warner Thomas. And we are one of the largest testers in the state, so it absolutely has a material change on the data


We actually are running low on the reacting agent, not the actual swabs
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 8:33 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:32 am to
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No way hospitals are manipulating results for federal money!


Link?
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19015 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:33 am to
quote:

So when politicians use the "percent positive is increasing" as a reason to tighten lockdowns, while not using the same data sampling, its bullshite

That really needs to be explained to you?


This entire debacle has been a mess. We make decisions after decision on changing and inconsistent data that has no consistency. Its makes no sense at all what we are doing


There is no pleasing y’all.

Test/don’t test, report/don’t report/underreport/overreport, report this way/report that way, y’all still find a way to bitch. I doubt the politicians give a frick.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:34 am to
And you don't think that JBE is having the books cooked just to keep control over the people in this state?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112659 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:36 am to
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There is no pleasing y’all.
You are a fricking clown


Example:

Percent postive is 8% when testing everyone

Less asymptomatic people are tested, due to tests running low, so naturally only symptomatic patients being tested means percent positive goes up, and then politicians use this as "trend" and reasoning to increase lockdown measures, instead of noting the obvious reason why


You are ok with that? Why? It isnt difficult to keep track of all this and know your sampling measures. Without having controls on the testing samples, all of this tracking is 100% meaningless
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 8:38 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42807 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:37 am to
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There is no pleasing y’all. Test/don’t test, report/don’t report/underreport/overreport, report this way/report that way, y’all still find a way to bitch. I doubt the politicians give a frick.


So asking for consistent parameters to judge by is unreasonable?

If it’s total case numbers, shouldn’t it be normalized to the number of tests So we are looking at apples to apples? If it’s percent positive shouldn’t we have uniform criteria for testing?

Why is wanting transparent and consistent guidelines for decision making unrealistic? Oh that’s right, you just don’t like people criticizing the government through this
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112659 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:38 am to
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So asking for consistent parameters to judge by is unreasonable?
to amos yes


quote:

If it’s total case numbers, shouldn’t it be normalized to the number of tests So we are looking at apples to apples? If it’s percent positive shouldn’t we have uniform criteria for testing?

Why is wanting transparent and consistent guidelines for decision making unrealistic? Oh that’s right, you just don’t like people criticizing the government through this
How Amos is against this so vehemently is amazing to me
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 8:39 am
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19015 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:38 am to
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You are a fricking clown


I won’t even dignify with a debate given posts from you lately. Your opinion isn’t the only one that matters bud.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112659 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:39 am to
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I won’t even dignify with a debate given posts from you lately. Your opinion isn’t the only one that matters bud.
Dude

You think having consistent control measures on data samples is worthless/asking too much


At this point, there is no true way to make any real inference from any of the testing data because they have not been able to log manage the parameters around the sample set. If you dont see that, your discussion on this topic is useless
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99046 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:15 am to
Our mayor is begging people to test that have no symptoms to get our percentage down


I talked to a doctor this morning that had symptoms last week but didn’t test because “I can’t stay home for 14 days”
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:28 am to
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I’ve been tested twice in the last ten days and have never shown a symptom.


but why?
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