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re: Cop assaults and arrests CVS employee for sitting on a bench
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:41 am to holmesbr
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:41 am to holmesbr
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In Louisiana if you are minding your own business and cop asks for your ID do you have to show him?
In Louisiana (and all of the USA) a person is not required to produce ID or documentation upon demand. Louisiana has a "Resisting an officer" criminal statute that requires a person to state their name, but only when first legally detained or arrested. For detention to investigate the officer is required to have "reasonable suspicion" that a crime has been committed, or for arrest have "probable cause" to believe there was a crime. It is usual practice for officers to charge a non-offender with "resisting", and make up some bullshite lies to justify their behavior.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:49 am to Dex Morgan

It's the frickface on the right. Apparently he's been doing a lot of these false "resisting arrest" arrests. Scumbag
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:58 am to PoppedRiser
He's got, "I was bullied in hs, & now that I'm a cop, I'll show them" dripping all off him.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:40 am to LA Lightning
I don’t think this is correct. I’ve looked up the law on this and I think Louisiana is one of the few states where you have to produce I’d on command if ordered. I’ll look it up again and post it here later..
It shouldn’t be like that but I believe it is.
It shouldn’t be like that but I believe it is.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:56 am to LA Lightning
quote:
In Louisiana (and all of the USA) a person is not required to produce ID or documentation upon demand. Louisiana has a "Resisting an officer" criminal statute that requires a person to state their name, but only when first legally detained or arrested. For detention to investigate the officer is required to have "reasonable suspicion" that a crime has been committed, or for arrest have "probable cause" to believe there was a crime. It is usual practice for officers to charge a non-offender with "resisting", and make up some bullshite lies to justify their behavior.
You’re such a cuck. They don’t have to make up BS for reasonable suspicion, it ain’t that hard champ
Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:57 am to eitek1
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I don’t think this is correct. I’ve looked up the law on this and I think Louisiana is one of the few states where you have to produce I’d on command if ordered. I’ll look it up again and post it here later..
I know what I said is correct. Here are direct quotes from 2024 Fifth Circuit regarding Louisiana's statute § 14:108B:
According to the Supreme Court, the Fourth Amendment is not
offended when a state statute only requires a detainee to state his or her name.
See, e.g., Hiibel v. Sixth Jud. Dist. Court of Nev., 542 U.S. 177, 184–85 (2004)
(“[T]he statute does not require a suspect to give the officer a driver’s license
or any other document. Provided that the suspect either states his name or
communicates it to the officer by other means . . . the statute is satisfied and
no [Fourth Amendment] violation occurs.”). (T)his court has recognized the principle that “the police cannot arrest an individual solely for refusing to provide identification.” Turner v. Lieutenant Driver, 848 F.3d 678, 695 (5th Cir. 2017). Unsurprisingly, § 14:108B(1)(b)-(c) conforms to these precedents, as it only criminalizes the refusal to provide a name after being lawfully detained or arrested.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:06 am to Dex Morgan
I don’t understand why “suspicion is not a crime” is so hard for these folks to understand.
Affectionately enough the edgewater police department has turned off comments on their Facebook. fricking pussies.
frick a cop.
Affectionately enough the edgewater police department has turned off comments on their Facebook. fricking pussies.
frick a cop.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 6:27 am
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:08 am to Proximo
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You’re such a cuck. They don’t have to make up BS for reasonable suspicion, it ain’t that hard champ
Definition of Reasonable Suspicion - Reasonable suspicion has been defined by the United States Supreme Court as requiring something more than an "unarticulated hunch." It requires facts or circumstances that give rise to more than a bare, imaginary, or purely conjectural suspicion. Reasonable suspicion means that any reasonable person would suspect that a crime was in the process of being committed, had been committed or was going to be committed very soon. The officer must be able to articulate (that means to say or state if you aren't literate) actual facts that support a conclusion of "reasonable suspicion". According to the courts, that certainly is a greater burden than just making up BS, so who's the cuck here, champ?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:28 am to LA Lightning
I think Louisiana just passed a law not long ago though making stop and id okay.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:41 am to tigersownall
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I think Louisiana just passed a law not long ago though making stop and id okay.
Louisiana's law is sometimes mischaracterized as "stop and ID", but only provides that a law enforcement officer may stop a person in a public place whom he reasonably suspects is committing, has committed, or is about to commit an offense and may demand of him his name, address, and an explanation of his actions.
No one is required to produce a drivers license, other ID, or documents per the US Supreme Court. If there are no facts supporting a "reasonable suspicion" of crime, the person is entitled to ignore the officer, or actually even to respond "F you".
Posted on 6/4/25 at 7:37 am to LA Lightning
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quote:
I know what I said is correct. Here are direct quotes from 2024 Fifth Circuit regarding Louisiana's statute § 14:108B:
According to the Supreme Court, the Fourth Amendment is not
offended when a state statute only requires a detainee to state his or her name.
See, e.g., Hiibel v. Sixth Jud. Dist. Court of Nev., 542 U.S. 177, 184–85 (2004)
(“[T]he statute does not require a suspect to give the officer a driver’s license
or any other document. Provided that the suspect either states his name or
communicates it to the officer by other means . . . the statute is satisfied and
no [Fourth Amendment] violation occurs.”). (T)his court has recognized the principle that “the police cannot arrest an individual solely for refusing to provide identification.” Turner v. Lieutenant Driver, 848 F.3d 678, 695 (5th Cir. 2017). Unsurprisingly, § 14:108B(1)(b)-(c) conforms to these precedents, as it only criminalizes the refusal to provide a name after being lawfully detained or arrested.
Thanks for the clarification. I was thinking of the portion below as that which required you to produce an ID. That is not the case, and I appreciate you clearing that up.
(c) Refusal by the arrested or detained party to give his name and make his identity known to the arresting or detaining officer or providing false information regarding the identity of such party to the officer
Looks like you only have to provide your name if you are detained or arrested.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 7:41 am to Dex Morgan
Yo, Dre. I got sumpin to say...
Posted on 6/4/25 at 7:42 am to TigerBait1971
how difficult is it to give the cop your ID when he asks for it? I do this and I have never been assaulted by a cop. seems pretty easy?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:10 am to bushwacker
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how difficult is it to give the cop your ID when he asks for it? I do this and I have never been assaulted by a cop. seems pretty easy?
There are a bunch of "auditors" and cop haters on this thread. They all will be the ones crying first when they are a victim of a crime.
Obviously the cop was overzealous and should have backed down at some point. But the kid is a dick and entitled. He's loitering in front of a closed business with a hoodie on and the cop said he tried to hide behind a pole initially so he approached him. He has to document the interaction so he asked for ID, which seems reasonable. The kid says he works there which doesn't mean anything. How does the cop know who works there? He's not wearing a uniform or show a work ID. He just says I'm leaving, which escalated to the arrest.
It went too far and the cop should be disciplined. But he didn't commit a crime. Being a cop is hard and there are tons of these interactions every day. Our society is to blame for these escalations and people not having common courtesy. This could have been resolved so easily. Being a sullen dick to a cop is probably not the smartest thing to do and shouldn't be rewarded. His retired Police Captain Grandfather isn't going to be proud of him..
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:23 am to Dex Morgan
I don’t know why the cop treated the kid like that, but the primary reason for this lack of knowledge is the artful editing of the body cam footage.
The same technique that anti-cop crusaders love to cite, edited video, is employed in this outrage porn.
Maybe the truth is exactly what is being presented in this narrative, that the cop randomly saw a guy on a bench and went to harass him because he’s power tripping. But if so, why present it with such an embarrassing amount of jump edits in the footage?
It’s not like the anti-cop youtuber with a channel dedicated to anti-cop video outrage porn has any incentive to present a jaded version of the truth.
The same technique that anti-cop crusaders love to cite, edited video, is employed in this outrage porn.
Maybe the truth is exactly what is being presented in this narrative, that the cop randomly saw a guy on a bench and went to harass him because he’s power tripping. But if so, why present it with such an embarrassing amount of jump edits in the footage?
It’s not like the anti-cop youtuber with a channel dedicated to anti-cop video outrage porn has any incentive to present a jaded version of the truth.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:48 am to SpotCheckBilly
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Some people should not be cops. This guy is a perfect example of a Barney with too many bullets.
Really sums up all that needs to be said about this whole situation.
Now I’ll let everyone get back to their e-fight over who does or does not licks boots.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:52 am to Jimbeaux
Nothing will happen to the a-hole cop. Until we get an organization like MADD that goes off the rails AGAINST the actions of an overzealous cop, this will obviously continue. I would LOVE to see what actually happens to the cop. Zero happens
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:02 am to Jimbeaux
quote:
I don’t know why the cop treated the kid like that, but the primary reason for this lack of knowledge is the artful editing of the body cam footage.
The same technique that anti-cop crusaders love to cite, edited video, is employed in this outrage porn.
Maybe the truth is exactly what is being presented in this narrative, that the cop randomly saw a guy on a bench and went to harass him because he’s power tripping. But if so, why present it with such an embarrassing amount of jump edits in the footage?
It’s not like the anti-cop youtuber with a channel dedicated to anti-cop video outrage porn has any incentive to present a jaded version of the truth.
The cop thing has just turned into a great example of tribalism where neither side is willing to consider any nuance whatsoever and only approach things from their own preconceived perspective.
Take OP for example; He has posted more anti-cop threads than pretty much anyone else by a long shot. He hates cops and will ONLY post what makes them look negative. If you offer ANY nuance or difference of opinion, they'll plug their ears and just shout bootlicker at you over and over again like a child throwing a tantrum. Conveniently, these guys NEVER show up in the threads where a cop does something heroic or otherwise noble.
Let's look at the other side. Many people ALWAYS take the cops side no matter what the situation is. They will defend them and argue in their favor pretty much no matter what and they're just as hard headed as the first group I mentioned. Even when the cop is clearly wrong, they'll typically always try to work an angle to explain the officers actions away.
In all honesty, both parties are stubborn and wrong. I've seen cops do some absurdly tyrannical things and I've seen them do some incredibly brave things. I try to judge every interaction on the merits of the interaction and try to limit my bias and presuppositions when forming an opinion as we all should. None of this particularly matters though because the people entrenched on both sides will refuse to even consider the opinion of the other side.
ETA: Just in case someone throws out the bootlicker line after reading this, it's crystal clear that the cop is 100% in the wrong here and should absolutely face repercussions. He didn't just have a conversation with the worker and if he would've instead of immediately becoming combative, he would've known that he was harassing someone for no good reason.
Cop; "Hey man, I see you on this bench out here. The store is closed and there's no loitering."
Guy; "Oh yes sir, I work here and just closed up, I'm just waiting on my Lyft ride."
Cop; "Gotcha, can you check and see how close the driver is?"
Guy; "Yes sir, he's about 7 minutes away."
Cop; "Alright, have a good night."
Could've been that easy.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 9:39 am
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:10 am to Dex Morgan
At what point do we just stop with the "it's just a few bad apples" trope.
The whole damn orchard is rotten.
Nothing will happen to this power-tripping bully because his bosses are all exactly the same way. Trampling the 4th amendment is how you move up in law enforcement.
All the decent officers left the force years ago.
The whole damn orchard is rotten.
Nothing will happen to this power-tripping bully because his bosses are all exactly the same way. Trampling the 4th amendment is how you move up in law enforcement.
All the decent officers left the force years ago.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 9:12 am
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