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re: Construction community in a panic- I’m hearing ICE is Havoc

Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:14 pm to
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I want answers right then not when I can get roofer on the line or the roofer can get back to house to see what I am talking about.


Ahh yes the once every ten year hypothetical you might have to face . Great thing to get mad over. Again, wouldn’t be an issue with my company anyway bc the project manager and crew lead is always going to speak English.

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That’s bullshite. You don’t know who illegals are. Any documents some might have are fake or stolen.


What else can I do other than run a background check on the guy I’m interviewing/potentially hiring? Passes a background check, has an LLC, licensed with the state, insured. That’s 4 more things I require than most any other contractor, who normally just hire the cheapest crew possible and just give them an address and say go, without any management.

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It would be nice if people stopped hiring illegals. Quit being so defensive about your hiring practices.


I can’t interview my subs employees. I don’t hire an electrician then do another interview with his helper. That’s his employee, not mine. I’m not being defensive, just trying to put it plainly.
Posted by lsugorilla
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:15 pm to
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Naw, the contractors did not lower the prices because of the illegals. They just made more profit. Same with the rest in construction


And you don’t think they’ll pass the new increased cost onto you.

These generous individuals are just kindly going to take the hit.

Man they have some dumb people
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:28 pm to
you seem to be more interested in presenting problems with illegal immigration reform as opposed to finding a solution everyone (Americans) can agree to.

you could present an additional 10 more problems, i still want to deport all of them, reform immigration, and start fresh.
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:47 pm to
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I always find it funny in threads like this and IRL conversations yall act like illegals specifically Hispanic ones come here with some sort of advanced construction knowledge that is irreplaceable and impossible for American workers to grasp
exactly. Mexiacans are just a good at halfassing and fuvking you as any other hand, from tree planters to roofers. frick them.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:47 pm to
I'm in the construction industry and most.... 95% of the crews are legal workers. But there are a few illegals here and there. GCs always have in their sub contracts that crews have to be legal but they can't check every sub out there. The raids are really about harassing legal Hispanic workers. And if I was a green card worker in this environment, I'm not gonna work a whole lot. It's not worth being held for a couple of days while Clarence checks my creditials . And that's what this is really about, harrasing legal but foreign workers. That's fine but you can't replace these guys with American born workers, they don't exist. Prices will go up do to the labor shortage.
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:49 pm to
so, as i said.

no solutions, just problems. so, just give up? open borders? got it.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:49 pm to
Maybe if you say it a third time it’ll actually become true
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:54 pm to
hey sun god, did you know that there's a chance of constrution prices going up if we deport illegal immigrants?
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:58 pm to
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ou can't replace these guys with American born workers, they don't exist
truth. Although retarded talking heads like Kirk, who isn't in the real world tell us otherwise.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:59 pm to
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And you don’t think they’ll pass the new increased cost onto you. These generous individuals are just kindly going to take the hit.


Can’t speak for anybody else, but it wouldn’t change my price to the customer because I’m not hiring a Mexican roofing crew because they are cheap. They’re not. And 90% of our roofs are insurance work where insurance companies/xactimate set the cost.

I will say in other trades like tile, painting, and framing, you 100% can hire cheaper Mexican labor if you wanted. Because they will undercut white people. They don’t have to do that in roofing because they are the only ones willing to do the job.

More than anything for now, what is going to add cost to the homeowner is tariffs. Not trying to argue whether they are good or bad but for the time being, building costs are going to skyrocket. We just got an email from one of our suppliers yesterday that bc of tariffs prices are going up 5% immediately and they expect up to 38% increase soon. That price does have to be passed on.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:00 pm to
Have we tried using magic to solve this conundrum
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:03 pm to
Has anyone blamed the 'above the fray' moderates yet?
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:04 pm to
i have nothing to add, per usual.

i'll just post that i think your post is cool, Kirk.
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:05 pm to
Amish fixin' to eat.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:06 pm to
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no solutions


The solution is stop harrasing legal workers.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
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69737 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:07 pm to
yup, i'm sure you are fine with harassing illegal immigrants tho.
Posted by Klark Kent
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69737 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:08 pm to
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Has anyone blamed the 'above the fray' moderates yet?


no need. they showed up in full force to provide ample reasons why immigration reform is all but impossible and we should just accept open borders.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:13 pm to
After review Zappa Stache admits he’s a lib and TT9 alone doesn’t quite warrant action yet, gonna need dawgfan1234, TBoy, etc. to make an appearance
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:16 pm to
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, i'm sure you are fine with harassing illegal immigrants tho.


On sites I work there are 100 people a day and who those people are changes daily. The illegals are doing shite work, pulling concrete forms, cleaning up after framing. I'm all for getting those guys shipped out. But ICE is grabbing everyone and totally stopping work. Fine but now we have to stop work and negotiate with legal and citizens to come back to work.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69737 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:16 pm to
if it keeps the price of sheetrock installation reasonable, we should just keep this individual too:

NY POST: Trans migrant charged with raping 14-year-old boy in NYC bathroom
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 11:17 pm
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