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re: Congressman Jeff Van Drew claims Iran has stationed a "mothership" off the U.S. East Coast

Posted on 12/12/24 at 12:09 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 12:09 am to
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So what is the Congressman doing about it?

Are you familiar with the separation of powers in our country? Who, exactly, would the Congressman be able to direct to do anything about this?
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11747 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 1:02 am to
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He did, but he also stated before that that Iran got the drones from China.


I got one of them DJi drone from those bitches. Coulda been me.
Posted by TheQuadrangle
Member since Dec 2022
141 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:24 am to
Iran? why would anyone believe that?

What a transparent yet strange way to trick people into supporting war.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30523 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:47 am to
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The Chairman of the Joint Chief things other things are more important these days.


What do Sweden and New Zealand have to do with this subject? Are you retarded or just lying?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30523 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:02 am to
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does anyone actually think there would be an iranian ship launching drones from the east coast into the US and it not be blown up by now?


From a grunts POV (warfighting is warfighting) there are actually legitimate reasons to watch your enemy as they probe your defenses, at least as long as they don't know you know they are there. As long as they aren't doing recon by fire where you may need to impose your will on the sorry bastards you can gain a lot of actionable intelligence by watching them snoop and poop. For example, where the are probing gives you insight into where they may attack and what kind of forces they will be using. In infantry terms if they are probing up a creek bed then you know where to fortify defenses and you can expect only infantry, if it is a 100m wide wadi then you need to prepare for technicals and armor if they have it. It lets you know where and how much effort you need to spend on that area to adequately defend it.

You lose all that advantage when you start yelling at them and shooting them. This may be smart if there is every reason to believe you have equal or inferior levels of force but if you are in the position of significant strength drawing them into what is now a trap when they expect a weakness is advantageous.

Even when people were talking about the drones but it got no givernmental acknowledgment it could lead Iran (or whomever) into a false sense of security and add defenses to thwart efforts at those targets. Announce to the world "we see you" and that advantage disappears, they will change their probing tactics and targets and you may miss them next time.




TLDR quietly watching intelligence gathering by an opponent often does more good than shooting them and giving up that potential advantage. You win conflicts by logistics first, intelligence second, and pulling triggers third.

Posted by ScubaTiger
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2003
4829 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:28 am to
More BS from a congressman. Don't believe any of it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:46 am to
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I'd bet he's full of shite about it truly being Iran. Seems like there's no way the military complex would allow that to happen.



They allowed those balloons until public outcry caused them to act.

There is no mothership here, but our own govt is fairly pussified when it comes to these things.

Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4742 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:49 am to
Amazing how many people on this board will believe this, without any further proof. If this is true, there should be plenty of evidence. Not saying that there is not one central source for these drones, but Iran?...and a mothership?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:51 am to
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Not saying that there is not one central source for these drones, but Iran?...and a mothership?


When your government is not transparent and incompetent, everything is a possibility.

If the govt doesnt want "disinformation" they need to talk to the people.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6720 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 8:35 am to
No shite, Scooter.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
56001 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 8:45 am to
Isn't this situation why we have Delta and SEAL teams?
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